phoenix44 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I think I have a male, and I want a female so I can try to breed them. Such an awesome fish to have must be shared! can someone please confirm if this is a male / female? Has anyone else bred them? Any one have the opposite sex to what I have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 top two pics look male ish bottom photo poss female but need better photos mate as both can have hairs but males have more. female rear fins should be short and rounded/ males are more oval and longer for fanning body shape is hard at this size but i would suspect females are slightly rounder on well fed individuals Males hairs on pecoral fin can be curved and long and males are generally bigger in size i have L052 not L168 sorry cant help do have one L168 but has eye problem and wont part with it unless i can cure it agree great looking plec and yrs look great i would recommend 78-80 C ph of around 6.8 or 6.6 and a good strong current feed well with protien and have plenty of widish but flat caves have heard they prefer bamboo but cannot confirm this HTH mr pleco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 thanks. i was hoping you would see this. the pics above are all the same fish. he loves his drift wood and gets to eat (well that's what i put in the tank) that tetra sinking tablet, hikari sinking tablet, and hikari massivore. lots of current in the tank, lots of powerful filtration. ive had him for a few months now but have never seen him eat specifically. he just grazes on the wood from what I have seen. I really want more of them. they are such a cool looking fish. :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Beautiful fish - good luck in your search for a mate, whichever sex - look forward to more pics :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 yeah ditto what he said looked around but all i see are young males third photo was a stab thought it might have been a different fish but its so far away cant see any visable signs of it being male so like i said at that range a possible female keep up the great hunt for a female one will turn up eventually :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ill try putting more pics up, but getting him in the frame without a million fish crowding around the camera is sooo hard Ill try again after work today. :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 OOh he a real nice fish if you manage to breed them put me on your list Is that my girl i see in the bottom picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ill try putting more pics up, but getting him in the frame without a million fish crowding around the camera is sooo hard One snippet of advice that successful phish photographers give is to remove the subject to a separate holding tank - only needs to be a small one, maybe with a little bit of decoration (depending on how reclusive the fish is). May be worthwhile if its for something as important as breeding this lovely fish (for us all, hehehe, so dont forget to add me to that list) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 OOh he a real nice fish if you manage to breed them put me on your list Is that my girl i see in the bottom picture yep! that's your convict. peaceful and shy now. fins have all grown back and she is massive and fat on hikari. eats very well ha ha. Aqua - Ill give you a hundred bucks if you manage to catch any fish in the tank without changing the way the tank has been set up. Infact ill give you 200 if you can get mel's convict :lol: -ive spent hours with 6 nets in the tank to no avail (and im the fastest fish catcher you will ever see 8) just ask my customers at work :lol: :bounce: ) there are soooo many plants, in such a thick, dense network, and so many pieces of driftwood that its virtually impossible to catch any thing unless it jumps out of the tank (except the angels which are easy to catch cause they're dumb) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Lol, make it $1000 and I will even fly up, catch the fish, take the photographs and publish the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochelleMay Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Great looking fish, looks particularly awesome in the third pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 sure is purty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Great looking fish, looks particularly awesome in the third pic I agree - the darker exposure makes the contrast look awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 these guys are notorious for changing colour to suit their enviroment and can change from a dull patchy yellow to a bright yellow and dark black stripes in seconds certainly makes them an interesting and attractive plec if for only that reason alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Lol, make it $1000 and I will even fly up, catch the fish, take the photographs and publish the results can i be invited to watch ...love a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 you're more than welcome to come look at the tank and the jungle that is growing ha ha... these guys are notorious for changing colour to suit their enviroment and can change from a dull patchy yellow to a bright yellow and dark black stripes in seconds certainly makes them an interesting and attractive plec if for only that reason alone i agree. its very cool. they can change colour to such an extent that they look like a completely different fish altogether. ill try getting more pics today if he comes out to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 He is not obliging today. Haven't seen him properly since I got back form work today- will try again tomorrow. If any one else out there has some, or even 1 please feel free to post pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I would love some of these for my next planted tank hopefully someone out there breeding them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aquatopia Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Awesome pics phoenix - and a stunning example. I really hope you find a mate for this one - it would be awesome to see more of these. Probably in my top 5 favorites :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Awesome pics phoenix - and a stunning example. I really hope you find a mate for this one - it would be awesome to see more of these. Probably in my top 5 favorites :-) i agree aquatopia great plecs hope someone out there grabbed a pair while they were around at that size its hard to decide if its male or not ill see if i can get pics of my adult male L052 to show you the difference you need to look for as it grows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Top fish mate! good luck with tracking down some more, I'll keep my eyes open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Thanks guys. I was looking at the L052 and now am very confused. they look identical down to the last detail. except for some colouration dots found on the L052's face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 exactly 8) now you know why some Lnumbers are hard to identify had this exact same arguement with myself when i aquired these ones it was only the fact that catbrat knew what they were that convinced me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 post pics of yours up please! It'll be awesome to compare the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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