Fay Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Been having a read here who is using this system by the way does any one know how many Reefers are in NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 here are the posts already discussed. there must be about 50-100 reefers in nz. about 4 reefers use this system in NZ. It is mainly used to colour up acropora corals as it removes nitrates and phostphates. I would not use zeovit on your tank as it is mainly a soft coral tank and you could have real problems if you dose incorrectly. Zeovite does not remove directly nitrite , nitrate, or phostphates from the tank. It permanenly absords ammonium and ammonia the first two chemicals in the nitrification cycle, thus preventing the formation of nitrite and nitrate. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=3130 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=2411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 My interest is because I started using Zeovit last week to remove high nitrate levels. Concerned about comment not good for soft corals and leathers?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Fay, I have used Zeovit for 6-7 months with no bad effect my Xenia is growing so fast I'm selling it as quick as i can frag it, Just follow the programn & all will be fine . Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I would be concerned as well. The product started off as too colour up acropora and now it is used for soft coral. There is not benefit for soft coral at all as most like some sort of nutrients too grow. actually how high is your nitrate and phostphate levels. ?????? nitrate levels of below 10ppm is fine and slight phostphate levels also not a problem as these are utilised by soft coral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Nitrates 25<>salifert Nitrates 5 <> Hagen Phosphate between 0-0.25 just there<>Hagen My nitrates have always been the same testing with salifert, Yet before starting Zeovit Hagen tested 5 and now showing small drop something is wrong with one of these test kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Hagen test kits are not that great for salt water, the salifert test kits are much better. Your phostphates are fine for a leather tank. Nitrates a bit high, but if you do couple of big water changes it will go down. i would aim for below 10ppm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 When I started using salifert test kits my nitrate and phosphate were reading 0 with hagen kits with the salifert nitrate was 5 and phosphate 1.0,it may be worth getting a salifert phosphate kit you might find your levels are higher than the hagen is showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 you'd be a little concerned if it were around the other way though but salifert are certainly raved about the most - perhaps thats why!!! NEVER by salifert aiptasia exit though,... unless you wanna waste $30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 funny you should say that Chim, cos i had no success with joes juice & you did? bizzare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Reef i have been doing water changes 150 ltrs fortnightly after doing 300 ltrs weekly on a 600 ltr tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 jss, only had success with joes juice (kinda sick sorta name if you think about it ) and none whatsoever with salifert. joe kills aipstasia DEAD instantly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reef Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Fay if you are doing that much water changes then you have to find out what is causing the high nitrates, How much do you feed?? eg daily . 3 times daily what do you feed??? do you wash your frozen food before you feed the fish?? do you filter your top up water?? ro or di what supplements are you using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 first things first, test your replacement water before actually changing it!!! highly unlikely its the test kits, there maybe a little difference between kits but not enough to detect 0 vs 25 for eg. as reef says, provide more details about your tank, eg: stocking levels, skimmer make/model (vs the 600 litres you have), kg of LR (for biological filtration), feeding? etc etc. remember reducing nitrates wont happen overnight,... but it will happen (go the shampoo ad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 29 fish<>2 shrimp<>2 big starfish<>lots of little starfish<>lots of snails feed twice daily morning salifert plus<>spirulina<>spirulina disc for big boy<>night 2 cubes of brine shrimp<>2 mysis<>1 cube marine tucker<>little bit of whitebait for anemones which there are 6 of<>Sorry didnt weigh my rock filter top up water down to 0.5 mic. will test water change this week use westcoast sea water but we are only 2 km up from the mighty Waikato River mouth. run 2 skimmers Queen TS-3000 surposed to be good for 2000ltrs<>Tunze not sure of model got off Alois good for 2000ltrs. Supplements<>up until now<>all salifert<>trace soft 30ml<>trace hard 20ml<>natural Iodine 30ml<>coral food 15ml<>natural strontium 30ml<>weekly<> Liquid magnesium when required seachem kalkwasser in top water. was running salifert phosphate killer in bag in sump no activated carbon<>but will start this when I can get up to Auckland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 YOU NEED TO GET RO OR DI FILTER UNIT, .5MIC WILL NOT REMOVE PHOSTPHATES AND NITRATES. SO THIS MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM??, ALSO NO NEED TO FEED ANEMOES AS THEY WILL GET TOO BIG. THE CLOWNS WILL FEED THEM ANYWAY, ANEMOES WILL USE THE LIGHT TO GROW AND THE ORGANICS IN THE WATER. YOU DO NEED TO SLOW DOWN ON THE FEEDING AS IT SEEMS QUIT A LOT, MAYBEE ONLY FEED THEM EVERY SECOND DAY. GET US SOME UPDATED PIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Have tried cutting down on feeding but the chromis skinny out, plus the bicolour angle starts nipping corals. P.S. I trust the selifert test kit will test my top up water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 wow Fay thats a lot of food :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 aye carumba 29 fish?! thats alot of fish poo to break down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Yea to much of everything I over feed Frog (my husband) too!! Will try and cut down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 i found a solution give me some fish :lol: but seriously that does seem like a lot of fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Yeah if you fish get skinny when cut back the feeding then you have 2 options, take out some fish or keep feeding the way you are. Alois has lots of fish in his tank and has struggled with Nitrates on and off for a while. I think his soultion was to use some sort of Nitrate Reductor. Perhapps he will shed some more light but I think if you want to run a heavy fish load, than no amount of skimming (Alois is the king of skimmers) will drastically reduce the nitrates. So less fish, less food or some technology is the only way around it. You could also look at making a MUCH larger sump, this increasing the fish per litre rule, which should help, but you tank is quite large so you will need some serious additional water volume. Good luck and tank is looking fab, I would love to see some updated pics. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted September 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I will try and make time for photos but I have been having problems with my fresh water tank sorted now I hope, poor Frog has been running the shop on his own again!!!!. P.S. I have been having trouble taking close ups they come out blurry any tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Use a tripod. Make sure the glass is keen. Use a camera with Macro if you can. Turn off all the lights except the tanks. Use a remote or timer so you don't press the button and move the camera when you take it. Use manual settings for depth of field and shutter speed to ensure accurate colours. Pietogropher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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