imsweet Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Have had a bit of a change around with the tank my killies were in. Had a mop in there and was taking it out every now and then, only to be finding 2-3 eggs at a time (and a few snails :evil: ). Have been feeding them tubifex a bit and leaving the mop in there, now collecting 3-4 eggs a day. Was wondering if the male was infertile?? as nothing has become of any eggs collected, so now ... hope this works... all eggs are going into a partitioned part of the tank with camboba and java moss to float on. Only thing is there's not much water movement. Is this necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 What are you doing with the eggs from the mop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 What are you doing with the eggs from the mop? Was putting them in a seperate container but nothing was happening. Now, ie; last couple of days, just collecting and placing in a sectioned off part of the tank onto some ambulia. No idea if anything is happening to them as i cant see them. Will just look out for some wrigglers in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 What species are you talking about? How long have you had them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 They are Australe Golds. Adult, 1 male and 4 females, had them not quite a year. Happy as and love food. Just cant get past the egg stage. Might be me tho :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Put the eggs in a small container with a bit of meth blue... that help stop fungussing. They sometimes will lay heaps of eggs for say 2 or 3 months, then just dont bother at all. One way to often start them off again is to raise the ph to 7 . Both my Chocs and Golds are on strike at the moment although the chocs laid about 10 eggs this morning. Feeding small amounts of food twice a day is also better than once a day just as live food is better than frozen or dried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Yeah australe eggs seem to be a little more fragile them most. You could always try putting them in a temp spawning set up. Small tank 200x300x200mm (no heating this time of year) small sponge filter Clump of moss scatter saturated peat over the base of tank Feed bbs, blood worms and any other live food you can get your hands on. Remove breeders after 10-14 days(1 trio) Then put a small amount of micro worms in the tank and wait 1 week(or a drip of bbs every other day). after 1 week feed a drip of bbs after dark, give it 10min then shine a flash light in (from the side so you see across the beam) to see if you can see anything. Or try what Barrie mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I think they need a new enviroment at times to get them keen again... separating the male out will often not work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Like a splash of cool water, to simulate change of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 ok, collected 4 eggs this morning (squished 1) and have put in a container with some meth blue. I think their change of tank has done them wonders as theyre still zooming through the mop now. poor boy will be knackered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 unusually enough it seems to be the male Australe that looses interest Most killis it the f/m that does a runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hmm, the females like to chase the male too. 4 blue eggs in the container now. Just added another 5 from the mop. Blue ones will be infertile huh. Do the females just lay eggs by themselves or do they need a male to get them in the mood? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Betta Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Interesting... my Australe have stopped producing eggs too. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hmm, the females like to chase the male too. 4 blue eggs in the container now. Just added another 5 from the mop. Blue ones will be infertile huh. Do the females just lay eggs by themselves or do they need a male to get them in the mood? 8) Normally they wont lay unless there is a male in the tank but if the male is not doing the business (not really interested) then the eggs wont have a very good strike rate. Aaron Try puting them in another tank in a different position and raising the ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 All the eggs are going blue. Shame really as theyre cool fish. They will eat from your fingers and all. Will keep an eye out in the newsletter for some eggs, of if anyone has a few spare? - Gold Australe - Happy to pay etc or can swap for some brine shrimp eggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 mine are just starting to lay again so if they keep going I will see what happens... are you going to the show/AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hey Barrie, not going to the show but collected 3 eggs this morning that arent going blue. Fingers X'd. Would love to make a start on these guys now i have a tiny bit of time to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeminx Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 What hatch rates do you guys get for australes? I'm lucky if I'm getting 40% but I have no problem getting larger numbers of eggs atm 10-20ish a day if you want imsweet I can send you some eggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 around the 50/50 Ryan Can you call in at some stage, I need you to witness some fish for me please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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