2young Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Can you breed tortoises which are brother and sisters i.e from the same parent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake kid Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 yes but it is not a good idea same with most animals as there is often lots of mutated and unhealthy young born from the prosses this accidentally happened with some of my friends frogs one was born as a tadpole with 3 heads (not looking as cool as you would think) by the way the prosess you are talking about is called in breeding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 yes but it is not a good idea same with most animals as there is often lots of mutated and unhealthy young born from the prosses this accidentally happened with some of my friends frogs one was born as a tadpole with 3 heads (not looking as cool as you would think) by the way the prosess you are talking about is called in breeding LOL a tadpole with 3 heads, a red axolotl a brown pygmy blue tounge chameleons for sale in chch What next!? :lol: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 depends on the parents they were bred from ie: were they siblings, and then their grandparents it happens on small islands over many years if you can swap with someone else would be better but then with the small gene pool you may be dealing with you may be breeding with the same genes you may have no option but to let your torts bang shells it would be good to sort out a register of tortoises in nz and where they have come from to setup a breeding register Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 it would be good to sort out a register of tortoises in nz and where they have come from to setup a breeding register Would need to keep it confidential so it doesn't become a thieving register... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 it is inbreeding if it doesnt work it is line breeding if it does. Thats how we get sub speices and local varients oh and blondes apparently Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 don't forget the sports, sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake kid Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 unfortunatley that tadpole died I see a lot of strange things oh by the way the red axolotl might have been a water dog as I saw it in aussie and red colouration is fairly normal on water dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 :lol: Sure.... Snakey one. Last time you said papanui pets :roll: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 the tadpole probably couldn't decide which way to go or the three heads spent too much time arguing and forgot to eat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake kid Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 no I said I have seen green axolotls at papanui pets not red ones I said I had seen them. I AM NOT A LIAR !!! and do not like being called one (not raising temper emphasising a point incase you thought I was angry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 no I said I have seen green axolotls at papanui pets not red ones I said I had seen them. I AM NOT A LIAR !!! and do not like being called one (not raising temper emphasising a point incase you thought I was angry) Did i ever call you a Liar? lol. Didnt think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 How old until tortoises are ready to breed? And do they like company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 How old until tortoises are ready to breed? And do they like company? what species are you enquiring about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The ones on trademe, saw them the other day and was just curious. I think they are greek spur thighed tortoises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 10 years? but i dunno to pricey for me to worry about - if only id bought up large when $400 was the going rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 it's a shame how much they are! they make awesome pets 2young what type do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 10 years? but i dunno to pricey for me to worry about - if only id bought up large when $400 was the going rate can be longer and sometimes never they were cheaper than that mincie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 a tadpole with 3 heads I have had fish fry with two heads. In the perfect world you may not breed brother and sister but with how rare these are in nz then you don't have much to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I thought size was more important than age...tho age plays a part? Might be wrong on that .....I usually am....lol Sometimes I wonder why I both breathe in and out cause I am obviously doing one of those things wrong...however.... I thought it was size.... and age Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I have had fish fry with two heads. It happens... http://www.arowana.com.sg/gallery5.html I'd say its not ideal, but better than having no tortoises in NZ!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 technically speaking they will breed when the gonads are ready do animals in the wild have a system of knowing if they are related or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Who knows? In a limited population there will always be a degree of inbreeding, but the difference between nature and the hobby is natural selection... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2young Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Steph I have one Hermann tortoise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 We may be getting one Greek Spur thighed tortoise. Do tortoises like company? Or are they ok as one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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