Jatt16 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I just bought a new breeding pair of discus but they are in bad shape. One of them has torn fins that are rotting and both have white spots and little hairs sticking out from the sides. Not sure if this is ich or fungi because never had this problem before and they are on thier own. What medications should i give them. I have put in melafix and methylene blue. http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp261/manmeet16/14102008041.jpghttp://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp261/manmeet16/14102008042.jpghttp://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp261/manmeet16/14102008045.jpg http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp261/manmeet16/14102008046.jpg pic of spot on male Another zoomed in Pic of spot on male Please suggest what i should do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I just bought a new breeding pair of discus but they are in bad shape. One of them has torn fins that are rotting and both have white spots and little hairs sticking out from the sides. Not sure if this is ich or fungi because never had this problem before and they are on thier own. What medications should i give them. I have put in melafix and methylene blue. Females tail Fungus on female Another pic of female tail zoomed in Pic of spot on male pic of spot on male Another zoomed in Pic of spot on male Please suggest what i should do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks alot for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I would do a corse of furan 2 i think it covers gram negitive and gram positive so should clear it up without a microscope its only educated guess work lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Its a shame that they look like that. In the pics of them for sale they looked okay. I can't help but you could pm discusguru and see if he has any suggestions although he will probably see them when he next looks at this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I would do a complete waterchange to get rid of melafix(useless) and met blue. Then treat with Furan2. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thanks alot for that but i thought that furan 2 destoyed all your filter media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 That sucks that people can sell fish like that I hope you got those fish cheap I think that your better to take the risk that your filter bacteria gets killed and do some more water changes etc than have your fish die.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 doesn't bother my filter at all when I used it. Mind you I do hugh daily waterchange so I guess it doesn't matter. What's the use of live filter when the fish is dead? ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ok i will use furan 2 but the pet shop owner said the best treatment was melafix???How much waterchange should i do about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 when i went to the petshop they said they ran out of the furan 2 so instead returned with the $6 wunder Tonic. Should i use it on a breeding pair of discus or should i wait for tommorow and get furan 2 from another petshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimebag Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 wait and get the furan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ive found melifix to be totally useless id wait for the furan2 in the meantime tonic salt rock salt or ordinary table salt(as long as theres no non chelating agent) will give them some releif in the meantime 1or 2 Tablespoon per 10g In defence of he seller shipping is very stressfull on fish and most things that aile our fish are present in small doses and factors such as stress can increace to point that immune systems dont cope.Discus are not renound for their immunity. At ph of 5.5 and below (natural habitat)bactaria ceases to exist hence low immunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Medications you should have on hand (and not wait till the fish is sick) when keeping discus are Furan2, Metronidazole, Prazi, rock salt and epsom salt. The rest can all go in the bin because they're a waste of time and money. Do at least 75% waterchange (with treated water of same temp) before treating with Furan2 and follow instruction on packing. Make sure you do the full treatment. Tell the fishshop what you want and not let them tell you what you need. If they don't have it go to another shop. Good Luck, ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 petshops down my ways are pretty clueless - they won't even order in Droncit for me and try to get me to use furan 2 for a worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Looks like anchor worms called Lernia..Thats spots with hairs..Only can be removed by tweesers and put out,I have done many times before.. The tail is most likely parasites that you cant see..Treatment is aquaflavin../ Meth Blue Together.........And plain salt at 1 tsp to 4.5 L I think it is most likely full of worms as that to can weaken them..i to got a female and found it full of worms that spread to my male and it died as could not handle the worms,shortly after the female to died from the damage done.Even tho i killed the worms {and still have in freezer }the damage was already done.. I stopped importing discus for that main reason they are full of worms as they feed live blood worms from septic waste area's..Also a sorce for just about all diseases that live in water.. I spent a fortune of treatments to clean out so at the end of the day,I will never buy another imported discus again..Just about every where i purchased them from had the same problems.. Yes Discus are not good at handling any sickness or stress.. Even the worming treatments can have them swimming as tho drunk or lying on the bottom for months..But if badly damaged then some just waste away..Or just do the discus trick and refuse to eat......Good luck.. Cheers Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Dont think they are worms i dewormed them with kusuri alreay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hi I understood that maf stopped your import of it...????.........Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Instead go some of a local source who got them in successfully but im not sure how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I use pure and have killed worms in every imported plus the other i won.. But i cannot say about the usa stuff but have worries that it has not got whats in it..But follow my others ideas........Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 So yesterday i put two pills in because my tank is 80l and today after doing 50% waterchange put two more in today. There is little recovery yet but will see what happens. Will post some pics soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Female Discus tail Male Discus tail just had started to rot Male Discus Female Discus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 size your photo to 640x480 so it's not so tiny. Rotting of tail usually is cause by putting new fish in a tank with a different PH from the old tank (Ph burnt). ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt16 Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thanks for all the replys, now iv noticed a new thing, sometimes they shake their tails does this happen with fin rot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Still recon bugs..Parasites.....Mostly skin flukes and protozon...Twitching .Scratching. Darting...........Tell me this.......Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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