new zealand discus man Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Hi Did maf ever do anything with the list of fish known to already to be nz..Before last permitted list up date...Cheers Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 When was the last update? And how comprehensive was the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Hi Below link to latest .. http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/imports/ ... ic.all.htm Cheeers Phill Ps ..About half you see in nz is not on list.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 So when was the last permitted update? Am I correct in thinking that just because its not on the list that doesn't mean you're not allowed to keep it if its here already, it just means it cannot be imported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hi On link as march 2007..Thats the first for a few years..In the old list the names were not full latin..Many were just as say..corydora.spp So any corydora could be imported now just as shown on new list.. So if you want a new name added its ERMA that give aproval to MAF then wait for years to be added because updates are usually years apart.. MAF did receive a list as known already but i dont think it was included.. Take L46 for sample..Did not see on list but known to be here. Also another main proble is latin names keep changing like... Pseudotropheus Zebra is now Aulonocara Zebra..And goes on..But to having fish as here now..Well if GE can be chased down...???.....Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Also another main proble is latin names keep changing like... Pseudotropheus Zebra is now Aulonocara Zebra..And goes on..But to having fish as here now..Well if GE can be chased down...???.....Phill There are still cichlids on the list under the genus Cichlasoma, which was split up some time ago. It is still referring to the same species though, even if the name is different, so one would assume that is not a problem. However, when dealing with bureaucrats anything could be a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Phil- mate if your moving into Malawi breeding you need to sort out pseudotropheus vs Aulononcara . A peacock has never been and never will be a mbuna- sigh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Phil- mate if your moving into Malawi breeding you need to sort out pseudotropheus vs Aulononcara . A peacock has never been and never will be a mbuna- sigh! Thats what i was thinking :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hi Not a Big deal.. Started on one line in my book,,Had a sip of dram and hopped to next line.. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/m_lombardoi.php My point is..See names there that are all used.. By the way..Im 66 and been in fish breeding importing for around 50 years.. Im not moving into anthing that i have never done in the past just changes to make business not so specialised... Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 You are also happy to push that fact and label yourself as a commercial breeder- your assigning the term business to your enterprise as key indicator to me, and you are always keen to push the quality of your product. I would have thought as a commercial breeder buying breeding stock off auction or from 'takeaguess" sources imprudent to say the least if quality is still your aim, and as you indicate you are in 'research mode'. All the best in the change of direction. Just a thought. Mods-Please note my intention is 'issue based' only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Not to sure as to your point..But maybe you had better visit and see one of the largest privately owned Fish Breeding Business in New Zealand.. See for your self..House and Land all paid for by fish.. Im also the Former owner of Burbank Goldfish Farm..20 years there. Before that 12 1/2 years importing and supplies to pet stores and few owners are still the same.. www.newzealanddiscus.co.nz Will give you some idea..80 square meters is fish room.. To buying..If say i win an auction and dont like what i see or its not to spec then i dont buy.. While this threat is actually about what maf did or not do... But i now have 13 types of african's and all at a fair price and all doing well.. Most on the point of breeding...Also today i have see another fish thats not on permitted list.........My Views anyway........Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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