Afrikan Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Ok guys, here is the thread, will transfer whatever lists that are on the other thread to here... Fire away and list your bristly lot :lol: Common name: Scientific Name: L number Male #'s Female #'s Successfully bred Y/N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 So far: The cONCh's lot: Can I just give you a link to mine on PlanetCatfish? Some of the aquisition dates are guesses - I've had them a long time and didn't really take note of exactly when I bought them: http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/my_cats.php?username=tHEcONCH&task=keeper Wave your mouse over the names and a picture should appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 natscat lot: Common name: Sunshine Scientific Name: Scobinancistrus aureatus L number: 14 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: N Common name: Scarlet Scientific Name: Pseudacanthicus sp. L number : 25 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: No Common name: Mango Scientific Name: Baryancistrus sp. L number: 47 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: N Common name: Maccus Scientific Name: Panaque maccus L number: 104, 162, LDA22 Male #'s: 1 Female #'s: 0 Successfully bred: N Common name: Dull-eyed Royal Scientific Name: Panaque sp. L number: 191 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: N Common name: Green Phantom (HF) Scientific Name: Baryancistrus demantoides L number: 200 Male #'s: Female #'s: 2 Successfully bred: Common name: Titanic Panaque Scientific Name: Panaque sp. L number: 203 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: N Common name: Blue fin Panaque Scientific Name: Ancistrini sp. L number: 239 Male #'s: 1 (I think) Female #'s: 1 (I think) Successfully bred: N Common name: Butterfly Scientific Name: Dekeyseria brachyura L number: 168 Male #'s: 0 Female #'s: 1 Successfully bred: N Common name: Tapajos Royal Pleco Scientific Name: Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus`tapajos` L number: 27 Male #'s: 1 Female #'s: 0 Successfully bred: N Common name: Queen Arabesque Scientific Name: Hypancistrus sp. L number: 260 Male #'s: 1 Female #'s: 0 Successfully bred: N 1 x Albino Gibby and some GBA’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Simian's lot: Common name:Common Ancistris Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: 2 Female #'s: 6 Juvie #'s: 50ish Successfully bred:y Common name:GBA Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: 1 Female #'s: 1 Successfully bred:y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/my_c ... ask=keeper There are of course collectors/breeders out there who have no intention of listing what they have and that is to be respected. And unfortunately some of them have got the plecs we would all die for. Maybe start a register people can add their name too. Or a 'sticky' in the catfish section so This is in peoples faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/my_cats.php?username=firenzenz&task=keeper There are of course collectors/breeders out there who have no intention of listing what they have and that is to be respected. And unfortunately some of them have got the plecs we would all die for. Maybe start a register people can add their name too. Or a 'sticky' in the catfish section so This is in peoples faces. You cant force anyone to list them, but it would be a shame to lose a species iin NZ when "bob" in Dunedin has a male and "jane' in Invercargil has a female, both grow old and die, and little did we know they were the last 2. This is something I think that will happen more and more as natural habitats dwindle, it is the same reason that Zoos have exchange programs going. It keeps the blood lines clean and ensures the continuation of the species. We can only try to do this and hope that people can see the long term benefit clear enough to put aside petty rivalry and share their knowledge and resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Common name: Queen Gold Nugget Pleco Scientific Name: Baryancistrus sp L number : 177 Male #'s: Not sure Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 You cant force anyone to list them, but it would be a shame to lose a species iin NZ when "bob" in Dunedin has a male and "jane' in Invercargil has a female, both grow old and die, and little did we know they were the last 2. This is something I think that will happen more and more as natural habitats dwindle, it is the same reason that Zoos have exchange programs going. It keeps the blood lines clean and ensures the continuation of the species. We can only try to do this and hope that people can see the long term benefit clear enough to put aside petty rivalry and share their knowledge and resource. Agreed with all fish we should be straight up and tell everyone what we have and what were looking for or else we may just loose species, it appears everyone with rare or sourt after fish have some sort of complex.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natscat Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I fully agree with ya Ryan. I don’t believe it’s a case of big noting yourself or hiding what you have, but you have that right of course, it’s more what we could potentially achieve by banding together to come up with a constructive plan for the present/future. Come on guys/girls don’t be shy. I wasn’t going to publish any of ours of this forum but it’s for a good cause. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Common name:Common Ancistris Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: 2 Female #'s: 4 Successfully bred:y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Breeding aside - I would love to know what people have so that if I saw one for sale I would know who to ask if it was the 'real deal'. I would love to get a few really nice ones for my tank but don't want to buy one thing and find out its something else. From what I understand its mostly males that come into the country anyway so if anyone is lucky enough to have a female they should announce it out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 if you have one in mind adodge why not post a question in here and whatever pleco ppl come in will answer it for you thought that was what the forum was for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Thats why I thought a permanent sticky at the top the catfish page would help, because this topic will drift down the page and out of view and will probably be missed by less frequent visitors to the site- the "Bobs and Janes". Let the topic hang around and build an environment where peolpe are encouraged and enthused by such an idea Of particular interest at the moment are Hypancistrus species because we are unlikely to see this genus again. we need female L260, and L66 as appears that there are plenty of males. We have here-L46, L270, L102, L260, L66, L333, L400, L136 Anyone got one, or another Hypan we missed. Y/N will do -don't need further info. Adodge- any imported plec old enough to sex is most likely to be male. So with juvi fish your chances greatly increase. The importers are buying the large ones as they are the same price or cheaper from supplier, because they are ID'd male.. End result -a adult L# will retail for the same price a 2cm juvi, but only one has a chance of being female Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 firenzenz - Will make an enquiry to admin over creating a sticky catfish species thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Mr Pleco - I do agree that asking questions is what this is for and you were a great help last week when I was asking about an auction. In the end I didn't do anything as I couldn't find out if they would hold it for a couple of weeks. Its alright when people can see pics but when they are in the lfs and you want to know if its the real deal its not quite so easy. I wouldn't feel right asking if someone could pop down to have a look and say what they think. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 i totally agree with you adodge but just because i own an L18 gold nugget dosent mean the one at the LFs is one but if you started a thread like "thinking of owning a L18 " id be able to tell you of my experiences with them and like wise other ppl that own them but having all of my plecs listed here dosent help you anymore than the above question see my point As for having jane and barry owning a pair but three thousand miles apart i think if jane or barry wanted to breed them they would post a WTB in the private exchange and the other would reply if so in mind As for me i pretty much know of who the pleco ppl are in here and ask them if im in the hunt for one or post in the private exchange forum dont see why this needs to change,except to maybe satisfy someone elses curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 As for me i pretty much know of who the pleco ppl are in here and ask them if im in the hunt for one or post in the private exchange forum dont see why this needs to change,except to maybe satisfy someone elses curiosity That is of little help to people who are new to or not active in "The Community" I myself am relatively new to keeping fish, and certainly am not involved in "the old boys network". for all anyone here knows I may have in my garage a whole swag of fancy Plecos, with no idea that they are rare or that there are very few females of that type around. We are now like it or not in a closed loop with regards to many fancy plecos. Certain fish will only become rarer or more inbred because it will be the same old people who will be carrying on the bloodlines, the whole idea of creating a very simple reference list of who has what will allow people who are successfully breeding them to add new blood their lines to avoid the deterioration of a species. "Oh hey Bob I see you have a mature male L18, how would you feel about an exchange, I am at the second or third generation and want to inject some new blood where did you get yours from?" Where is the harm in that? I cannot understand how secrecy will benefit the hobby, just last week an experienced fish keeper lost most of his collection due to a plug getting knocked out of the wall. It is so easy to lose an entire blood line in this game, I would hope that the "old boys" would be more willing to participate in the continuation of our mutual passion. No doubt this will upset many of the old school fish keepers with me stirring up these issues, but I am also hearing from a lot people who agree with what I have to say. We very much need your help Mr Pleco and the silent others or my kids will only be able to look at the pictures of these great fish in books Rant Ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 nicely put Simian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Never say Never. Pleco m.a.f.i.a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Common name:Common Ancistris Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: 3 Female #'s: 4 Successfully bred:y Common name:GBA Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: 1 Female #'s: 2 Juvie #'s: 8 Successfully bred:y Common name: Gold Spot Scientific Name:Glyptoperichthys joselimaianus L number: L001 Male #'s: Not sure (only have 1) Female #'s: Not sure Successfully bred: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Ok, here's the list of my beauties that I use to own when I lived in Canada, unfortunately I had to give them all up when I relocated.... Common name:Polka Dot Lyre Tail Pleco (2 Black, 1 Albino) Scientific Name:Acanthicus adonis L number: Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: 1 & Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Goldie Pleco, Sunshine Pleco Scientific Name:Scobinancistrus aureatus L number:L014 Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Snowball Pleco Scientific Name:Hypancistrus inspector L number:L102 Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Whiptail Catfish Scientific Name:Rineloricaria fallax L number: Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Galaxy Pleco, Tusken Pleco, Vampire Pleco Scientific Name:Leporacanthicus cf. galaxias L number:L007 Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Queen Arabesque Pleco Scientific Name:Hypancistrus sp. L number:L260 Male #'s: 1 Female #'s:0 Successfully bred:N Common name:Gold Stripe Panaque Scientific Name:Panaque sp. L number:L169 Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N Common name:Albino Pleco, Common Pleco Scientific Name:Pterygoplichthys pardalis L number:L021, L023 Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N It's possible I may have missed some from my old collection And what I currently have in my first tank since my move... Common name:Bristlenose Catfish Scientific Name:Ancistrus sp. (3) L number: Male #'s: Unknown Female #'s: Unknown Successfully bred:N I am wanting to start collecting some more of the rarer types once my larger tanks are set up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Catfish- i Actually think the purpose of this thread was to let everyone know whats floating around in NZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Dixon1990 - As I understood it, the purpose is for people with actual hands on knowledge of the different types of plecos, hence why I listed my old collection and as a collection I no longer have so no confusion. If I'm wrong in assuming this I'm sorry, my mistake and I'll delete the list if need be. However I am hoping to replace my old collection with the alot of the ones I use to have if able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 no catfish, yr fine ,nice collection you had by the way ,some of those numbers you wont find in NZ well not many anyway dont worry bout Dixon i think he gets a rush of blood to head sometimes esp when it comes to GBA crossed with BN hopefully you can return to some fancy plecos stocks soon and share yr knowledge on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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