Dixon1990 Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I have a 20L tank with a thin layer on sand and a clump of java moss in the middle. I plan on Putting a sponge filter in it and some peat. And try to spawn some cardinal tetras. I have a small group of 6 at the moment,at a good size. Im going to try get a ph around 6. The main thing i need to know is what kind of food would be best for the different sizes? I want to get a good stock of livefood etc before i try this. And how long will it take with good feeding for them to be able to eat crushed frozen bloodworms?And how long until the fry can have light? Please i dont need and i dont want any 'try something easier first' comments as that was all i got last time.So please dont. Im really only wanting to breed enough to geta nice we school for a 4foot tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 There is an excellent step by step article on breeding cardinal tetras in the article section on the main page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 if the silver dollars were anything to go by, they can start to be uncovered and have light when they start free swimming and have absorbed their egg sac. Green water will be definetly your best first food for them imo variety is best and a bit of trial and error. have a bit of micro worms, infusoria/green water and maybe a bottle of "liquifry" available. see what the fry respond best to. if they dont like it you can try something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Good luck, I'd love to have someone in NZ breeding them. It might be trial and error but if you win it will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 One of our Auckland members has been breeding cardinals in commercial numbers for years. In fact he wrote the abovementioned article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 ooops - I'll have to check it out then won't I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 There are people in Christchurch I know who have bred them also but they are not likely to share any info. All I know is that they are more difficult and a lot less productive than neons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Well Bryan shared all his info in the article which was published originally in the Nov 98 Aquarium World magazine. He was disappointed that nobody seemed to take up his challenge of trying to breed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 There are people in Christchurch I know who have bred them also but they are not likely to share any info. All I know is that they are more difficult and a lot less productive than neons. Well at this stage im mainly only concerened in getting a larger school for my 4 foot tank. So im only going to need 15-30.I dont really mind, but i will try my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Read the article and go for it. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 if you can get them breeding you may as well keep them going and get a growout tank and make have lots of cardinals. they are always in great demand anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paekakboyz Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 good stuff dixon, I'm going to go and have a look at a new tank tomorrow as I want to have a crack at breeding cardinals as well! I was pretty much going to follow the article on the site and see how things went. I'll post updates as I try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I use peat moss that has been water logged for some months and then boiled up to achieve sterilisation. The cooled peat can then be spread into the breeding tanks to a depth of 2cm. Whats peat moss? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 just peat i would guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I thought it could have been that, But i wasnt too sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I think peat is generally derived from sphagnum moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 So what should i use? Just normal Peat? And where is the best place to get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Good on you Dixon!! Great to see this..... in fact i have tried to breed cardinals myself and i was inspired by the article that Bryan wrote (tell him if you see him Caryl!...actually i'd like to ask him a few more questions eg does he put the males into the breeding tank first??..I think it doesn't matter). Anyway i had no luck but i think the main problem was my breeding stock was too old. He mentions use fresh young ones. I'd love to have a 500 strong school of cardinals hehe PS when i tried i just used standard boiled peat 2cm thick on the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks, Ive only successfully bred black widows,bettas and livebearers(they dont really count). So i dont expect to get many,if any fry the first time. But I Will put as much effort as possible to try and breed some for my community tank and others. Where is the best place to get peat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 And mine have grown alot since ive had them(only a month) so im geussing they are young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 get the Hauraki peat i got mine from mitre10 ages ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Do i need to do anyhting to it to 'prepare it' for the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Bryan stopped breeding cardinals prob around 2 years ago. He used to say that the hardest part was feeding the fry - once they are feeding on brine shrimp then you get the best results. Use SFBB brine shrimp or smaller if you can find it. I can't remember what the first food was, but I imagine it was green water / infusoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 FYI SFBB = San Francisco Bay Brineshrimp - they are smaller than some other species of brineshrimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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