Dixon1990 Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 I want to setup a 25cm cube nano.Mainly for some corals and maybe a shrimp. At the moment the tank im going to use has a betta in it.So i already have the heater and filter. the filter is just a HOB filter- Elite Hush 10-its 310lph. Would this be alright? What else do i need? And do i use seawater or mix a salt with tap water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 do i use seawater or mix a salt with tap water you can use what ecer you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Would 1 be better than the other? And what kelvin range should i be looking at for lighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 tank is too small, its not like keeping goldfish. marines need very good water quality and having a small tank is going to make it hard to keep things stable, especially the temperature in summer. Best to start off in a 3-4ft tank. here is some info http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/basic- ... 23675.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 i have already read that. But i just dont have the money to do one that big atm. Im still in school and dont really have enough income :-? I just thought i would try this as i have seen this done in smaller tanks before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 dixion it is very doable as i have done it in the past try http://www.nano-reef.com/ they have a more open mind to people who want to start up a small tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 have already read that. But i just dont have the money to do one that big atm. Im still in school and dont really have enough income Marines can’t be done on a budget. It is an expensive hobby and only the fish/corals will suffer due tio cutting corners to suit cheap budgets. I doubt i could keep a small tank that size looking good so i don’t think you should even attempt it, Save up for a larger tank. Small tank will have so much less tolerance to salinity / temperature. Also water quality will be hard to maintain. Do we really want to encourage Hobbyist to keep fish/coral in such small conditions which is cruel for fish anyway? We should be grateful that we can get them as the future does not look that great with the reefs being destroyed, So it is important that we give this creature the best possible conditions to thrive and grow. Not just keep them alive. I am not totally agaist nano tanks as if you have the correct fish and have experience in keeping a marine tank over many years and understand the water chemistry side then it might be an option, but for beginners i think it is a no go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 i have already read that. But i just dont have the money to do one that big atm. Im still in school and dont really have enough income :-? I just thought i would try this as i have seen this done in smaller tanks before. theres always one out there, do a cube but put a goldfish in it,it will save you money, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 setting up a nano could be done to a budget... but as reef has said, it'll be really hard to keep parameters within spec. it has been done before, but only rare cases have been successful. my advice would be to research everything you would like in it, then start collecting all the running gear now for a massive tank ie. the best skimmer you can get (don't skimp on this one, get one that is rated for a much larger tank), lighting, auto-topoff (not a necessity but highly recommended), powerheads, RODI filter for ASW or a storage container and collection containers for NSW etc. When you have all the gear it would make a tank upgrade so much easier as if you have gone all out on the gear, most of it can be moved to the new tank. If you really want to do this nano however, look at getting a decent sized sump tank set-up. it will add to water capacity and make it easier to keep parameters. you will be restricted to what you can keep in it tho, so do alot of research on the inhabitants, and then research a whole lot more. sounds like alot of work but welcome to marines. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
land_lubber Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I've done an aqua one 126 as a marine tank before and it was fine I took the bio balls out and just ran carbon and done weekly water changes of about 8 liters I had zoos, mushrooms and a plate coral plus a fire shrimp and everything was fine but it was in the coolest room of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i have an 8L nano with 5 corals in it, and its fine, 3L weekly or so waterchanges no probs, a few snails to clean up and other random hitchhikers. only problem ive ever had is when a coral tried to spawn went a bit haywire but lots of big water changes and it was sweet. So if your careful and look at temp and salinity etc there not many issues other than maybe light levels needed for some corals. have a chat to john at organism as well he has a few good ideas as well as he also has one of similar size with around 12 frags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 plus when did dixon say anything about fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 From my experience with an 8litre, it can be done, but it is a huge amount of work with a very limited return - you spend A LOT of time trying to keep the water right, and if you do whatever you have in there will outgrow the cube in a very short time - I decided it just wasn't that much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 http://www.melevsreef.com/pico.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i have an 8L nano with 5 corals in it, and its fine, 3L weekly or so waterchanges no probs, a few snails to clean up and other random hitchhikers. only problem ive ever had is when a coral tried to spawn went a bit haywire but lots of big water changes and it was sweet. So if your careful and look at temp and salinity etc there not many issues other than maybe light levels needed for some corals. have a chat to john at organism as well he has a few good ideas as well as he also has one of similar size with around 12 frags. Where did you get the snails from? What lighting are you using? I have had a talk to John, he said it should be alright. Ive got the model up from the filter you are using on yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Wouldi t be a good idea to make 1 of these for my tank then? http://www.63alfred.com/picoskimmer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 yea that would help alot with keeping it clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 im gonna make one But im going to use a slightly bigger tank, to make a sump at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 sweet how much bigger will you go. before your ready i would buy some rock any start cycling it (leaving it in a big bin of fresh water) that takes 3-5 weeks depending on rock size and how dense (sp) it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 have a look on TM for some or you could get it in a shop for about $11 a kg its better to get big light stuff because it dosnt cost as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 The main tank will have about 19L of water and the sump will have about 5L. If i use a diy sump i will still use the HOB filter right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Can black granite sand be used in Marine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 you could but its not ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 y not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Black granite is too dark for a marine tank./ no decent tank uses black granite. best to use a white colour as it will brighten the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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