TM Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Does anyone know where to buy either the bearded or water dragons from. Have seen the couple on trademe. Any one here have some. Also do you know about the history of them? Are they all, or are most of them from the same family??? What about leopard geckos? anyone seen these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 don't thing maf would let you have leopard gekos. in terms of dragons imo bearded dragons are the best as they show the most interaction with their owner. they are quite a bit dearer though.. they also don't need as big or as complex an enclosure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 just sent a pair down your way the other day(ch ch)sales have tapered off but not too many to handle now so not too bothered about shifting them.Alot more work than people think to raise good healthy un blemished babies ,mainly in regard to the huge volumes of live food they can put away.Raising your own food is pretty time consuming,when you have locusts,crickets and mealworms to feed.There are leopard geckos in private collections in nz,whether its another case of the green iguanas we will wait and see,Ti point and otorahanga kiwi house also had them,not sure if they still do as they were running out of females I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 i saw some(not sure what ones, it was deffinately bearded or water dragons tho) at papanui animates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatito Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 whether its another case of the green iguanas we will wait and see what happened with the iguanas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 MAF let them go and sale on trade me and then changed there mind and went and conferscated all of them and destroyed them... so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 not sad they were ileegally brought into the country.Served them rite!! kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 the ones at animates in pap are blue tongue lizards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 What served the animals right did it. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdspider Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 who said the iguanas were smuggled in? MAF? My understanding was that they had been in the country for years and were brought in legally when this was still possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 from what i heard ,it wasnt only iguana , there were other species involved , i think one was a monitor lizard not 100 on the others . there is frilled lizards here also . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 then they miraculousaly(sp?) bred,yeah right!and the `babies` appeared on tm etc for $5000 each.The akld zoo bought some and had them tested etc,some had different dna(not brothers/sisters)and some had a strain of salmonella not present in NZ but only found in reptile collections in singapore or USA.Also no one has actually seen the parents????When they rounded them up to put them down some turned out to be not iguannas at all but chinese water dragons which look very similar.Thats the story that I have heard from a few different people(some that had them confiscated)What was dissapointing was they let the sales go on for some time and the people that bought them in good faith had checked with DOC or maF for approval beforehand only to have them taken and destroyed after they had been transported from one end of the country to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 only thing similiar to iguana and chinese water dragons is there colour , look completley different imo , so what about the monitor lizards ? http://www.tv3.co.nz/tabid/213/Default. ... leID=15840 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 it was on the cities list and it was sent back to its coutry of origin,somewhere in asia.As for the green water d`s,have never seen one up close and personal so can`t comment,this was what I was told from people that are more "in the know" than you or me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 i have had dealing with and kept various snakes, lizards in the u.k , and have some good herpetologist freinds . there is know way you could mistake a iguana for a chinese water dragon :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU1 Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 What about chameleons (the ones that change colour), I saw them on trademe at $5000 a while back (couple of years) anyone private still have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Like if ya have, DON'T ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carla Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Like if ya have, DON'T ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTION :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 you may be thinking of the green iguanas which were $5000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU1 Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I'm sure it was chameleons :oops: Maybe I was thinking iguanas, I am talking a couple of years back though... Probably got myself confused :oops: :lol: :lol: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 The only waterdragons for sale on trademe at the moment are from good supply. Though if you want 'different blood' you may have to look futher down the line. Not all the waterdragons in New Zealand are from the same pair. There has always been a lot of them around, they just arent as popular. Due to them taking a lot longer to grow, a LOT longer to tame, and the size they get to. I love em! Not too sure about the Beardies, a lot of people breeding them these days. Mostly people who have bought them from the same batch of babies. As repto said they need a lot of work when they're young, otherwise they do have problems later. Pick a good breeder. Someone who has done it a few times, or someone recommended who has bought from them before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 sick of feeding the buggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 LOL I understand! Concidering they need and will only eat live food most of the time. Can you get the beardies eating a little kitten food, like the waterdragons? I know you can only really feed cat/dog food as 1/3(MAX) of their diet, but it makes things so much easier for a third of the time. Its not too bad if you feed them a good quality KITTEN food. I use Advance Chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 You can but you have to hand feed and wriggle it under their nose which is still time consuming,got heaps of locusts coming on so that makes it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I just had a look at some photos from the auckland zoo and of chinese water dragons on the net, I can see how they could be confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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