fishy_t Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Nah mine are hardly ever dark, and the alpha male never is - maybe you are having problems with your water that are temporarily fixed when you do a change? Do you check your water quility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 na he dosent get bullied he bullys the other fronts all the other are fine hes the biggest out the lot too? and do 2 sumtimes 3 water changes a week only a little bit of water, like 10-15% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 this is wot i mean by dark compeared to the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy_t Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yeah seems odd to me! Lets see what Shell thinks!! .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 The fronnies changing colour could very well be the difference in water going in. Unless its just from you having your arm, gravel vac, etc in the tank spooking them a bit. {cichfanatic} Be very careful with water changes. Cichlids from Lake Tangy can be very fickle to changes in water. As for the dark fronnie, are you sure it isn't getting harassed? As said earlier, dark fronnies like that, can mean stress. For it to be one only too & a fronnie. Leads me to being picked on. Also by the way it is sitting in the back of the pot & high up, seems like it is trying to stay out of others way. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 no way is it geting bullied it chases the other fronts pretty hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 :-? Oh well, maybe he just an anger bugger, humans get red faced, fronnie gone all dark Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 hi guy's, i'd recommend not pissing around with tank so much, better off doing a 20% waterchange every fornight(providing you don't over-feed). and get more rocks in the tank,he looks like he is saying get out of my turf. put the other pot down another end of tank and get more rocks in there or a variety of other pots.if he is the alpha male he will want to be away from the others. got to get a good balance in your tank,won't get that by mucking around with water all the time. more rocks/pots and give him his own turf by moving other pot away(opposite end of tank). let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 na when i put rocks in there hes goes pitch black and never comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Oh well thems the breaks. What you just said... na when i put rocks in there hes goes pitch black and never comes out. Matches this... if he is the alpha male he will want to be away from the others. How long did you leave it with more rocks in there? Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 left rocks in there for about 2 weeks and only saw him about 5 times when he got hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 2 weeks is hardly long enough for them to get settled to new surroundings. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 if ya want to have success with these fish, you need to arrange tank to their needs not your visual pleasure. what rocks did you put in?? a tank full of light coloured limestone or dolomite will not make fish go dark. i never had a dark front yet. these fish live 30metres down---- everywhere is rock, fronts aren't fussed on having bright lighting neither. nor fast-flowing water and hate spray-bar's put to much oxygen through water. frontosa's are low oxygen takers,due to the depths they come from, yes these are captive breed---but that doesn't change the way they are internally built. well that's all i can think of to try and help ya out. end of the day ya need more rocks(the right rocks) and do the tank to their needs not yours, and then walk away and leave it to settle for a fornight,feed lightly, then 20% waterchange and leave for another fortnight etc,etc. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 i put in tall massive bolders which weighed a tone :lol: i will put some rocks in there for now and leave for a while and see wot happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 this is a pic now that i put rocks back in there should i leave the back ground on or take it off coments please sorrry for stealing the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Thats a lot better mate, but I dont like the pots. It looks un-natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 yea it does see the next time i do a water change i will take them out and scater the rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 i got pvc pipe that works really well will put more rocks in now and the pipes thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 hate spray-bar's put to much oxygen through water. frontosa's are low oxygen takers,due to the depths they come from, yes these are captive breed---but that doesn't change the way they are internally built. Make sure you have some airation in there. They may live 30metres down. The water in Lake Tangy itself is very oxygen rich. http://www.wetpetz.com/laketang.htm In the upper 40 metres, the water is especially oxygen-rich. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 those two round things are bubble fliters which go 24-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 justin is quite right, i didn't word that to well, those box air filters are great. spray-bars and fronts don't work,they put in access tiny airbubbles,makes fronts itch,still keep spray-bars just make sure they arenot above the water-line. can't wait to see a pic with all the rocks in,the fish will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbochromis_freak Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 yea they do work well have tryed the spray bar in there all they did was scratch. will post some pic hopefull tonite for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 If you have a spray bar. Have it under the waterline about 2-4cms, facing on an angle upwards. If the water surface is being agitated, that will do the trick. You will get ripples in the water, without the fine bubbles. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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