Aquarium Dude Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 To do a water change of 100l could I stick the intake of the canister filter in my aging drum and the out put in the aquarium? And (this is genius (mabey)) then attach gravel vac to intake of canister filter and stick out put out window? Mabey the aging bin has to be same height as tank, but that is just a technicality(sp). Is the new but aged water ok going through filter media? Will this work or will I screw up the canister filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quack Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 i brought a cheap new pump off trade me, its 3500lph and was something like $35 this moves the water from my aging bins to tank quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 yeah i have done exactely what you described when i moved house. i got two 20L containers that i pumped the existing tank water out into then used the canister to pump it back in. it worked very well. Smidey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 The canister will probably block up very quickly with all the muck from cleaning the gravel (if I've interpreted what you are asking correctly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 The canister will probably block up very quickly with all the muck from cleaning the gravel (if I've interpreted what you are asking correctly). you could remove the the filters so it is solely a pump. i often do a 50% water change in my 200L tank & it doesn't take too long with the syphon. The longest part is often the filling, i have to use a bucket as the hose is on the lower level forthat side of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoban Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I have used my diatom once with the gravel vac attached but the output went back into tank as I wanted to test something at the time and it did work pretty good. Is different to look at the "gunk" in the bottom of a diatom then it is the sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 you could remove the the filters so it is solely a pump ya could but what a pain in the behind :lol: and you would most likely upset your bacteria colonies with such frequent dismantaling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarium Dude Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Does anyone know where to get INLINE aquarium pumps, the only ones I have ever seen are submersible. Ps. Eheim is to much $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Ummm, Just about all powerheads and pond pumps can be used inline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarium Dude Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Oh ok :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarium Dude Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I never thoiught of that, 2200l per hour taken thorught a gravel vac, anyway it would tanke the stones into the filter :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 cannister juss has to be lower than the tank. (as they do anyways) Um they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Ohk im not sure, just by the physics of it you should be able to have the canister anywhere, the starting would be the hard bit but.... I dunno lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarium Dude Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Priming would be seriously difficut and getting the air out, but after that shouldnt it work????? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Cannister filters run a closed system so the location wont effect performance. It does make them harder to prime as air will get trapped, some models may make it almost impossible to remove the air. If this is the case then what you do is lean the cannister over on different angles, or temporarily lower it from the aquarium, doing these things will encourage the trapped air to escape and you can normally hear it. I've got one filter at tank level, and I've had to do this before on many occasions. Cannisters are a LOT harder to prime when they're not lower than the tank, but once 100% primed they run just as good whether they are next to the tank, 1m below or 1m above - although roof mounting isn't recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Yep, had to do it to my Jebo 810 and Jebo 819 when using it level with the tank. Only thing that'll stop the cannister from pumping is air, and even if the cannister is higher than the tank, the water flow will remove any air that tries to rise before it builds up. If it worked on its side temporarily, sounds like it had a little bit of air trapped in there still. Maybe it needed a bit longer or possibly a design flaw on the Fluval?? Honestly not sure as I haven't used a Fluval since the older generation 404, we're a Jebo family now :lol: :lol: although seriously tempted by these fancy new Aquis 2400s which are self-priming I hear too 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi, thought I would let you know how I do my tanks. They are in the back shed nowhere near a tap or drain. We connect our hose to the nearest tap and run it up through the window to the tanks. My husband turns it on and I let it start to flow into a bucket. When the airbubbles have stopped I put my thumb over the end and he turns off the tap. I put the hose into the tank and then he disconnects the hose from the tap end, drops it into a drain and we're away. This should work if you connect a gravel vacum to the end of the hose as long as you can seal it. Unfortunately when I come to refill I have to bucket out of the house and around to the shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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