andyman98 Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 i have asked my parents if i could and they have said yes!! !anyway what wanted to know is has anyone done it before and what did you do for lighting heating water etc. what would be some good fish to breed as i want to breed/sell something that people want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 If you are starting from scatch, you main things that push the price of keeping them up is heating and lighting. I have just finished a fishshed. For the windows, I double glazed them, the walls have at least 50mm of polystyrene insulatin as well as the roof. The main heating source is the concrete floor. As I poured it, I put in PVC piping, through which water, heated by a solar is pumped. This lasts as a heat resivoir thru the hours of darkness, and as backup I have a thermostatically controled fan heater. Beware Without these your power bill can soar over $300 very easily in the summer. In "special tanks", can have a heater for each of them. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Back in Sept last year. Rene was selling his fully transportable fishroom. It was a... "20ft insulated container ,wired up , 33x90litre tanks on metal stands (3 tanks high) each tanks has own floro light , gravel, back drop, under gravel filter. The air supply is via 2 commercial pumps through a central supply system. 5 other tanks of varying sizes included as are all fish plants accessories etc." It was a converted shipping container. Rene lived in Richmond at the time, so local to you. I think he might have been asking $5,000 from memory but I may be wrong there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 This may be a bit basic, but talk to the local fish shops find out what they are willing to buy from you, see what they sell lots of. Should give an idea of what people are buying in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Ideally you'd want a range of fish that you rear - bread and butter ones that the shops have a high turn over of and then some more interesting bits and pieces that perhaps you don't breed as often. The breed and butter fish that I would concentrate on (if I were doing it) would be guppies (well coloured and grown), white cloud minnows (these could be done outside though), perhaps platties, also bristlenose plecos (depends on your local shops - the best shop here in Hamilton pushes bristlenoses as prefered algae eaters - so I could hock of 20-30 a fortnight (just little 3-4cm ones)). Then there would be other bits and pieces that you'd not call bread and butter fish. Different types of cory's, perhaps dwarf cichlids, more exotic plecos (if you can afford the breeding stock). As was suggested previously - it's really look at what there is a demand for. I presonally wouldn't bother with convicts or kribs as they get bred that often that I think you'd find it difficult selling any you'd bred. Like wise there are only a limited number of people who want to own Red Devils. Of course these suggestions are biased by what I'm interested in. Also if you're going to be doing a reasonable amount of breeding make sure that you have sufficient rearing tanks - this often gets neglected, if you've got high stocking rates in your grow out tanks then it's likely that growth rates and sizes will be reduced. Also as far as what prices you should be expecting - half the price of what the shop sells them for is a reasonable guide line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 I find most of the time the pet shops olny pay 1/3 or less of what they sell them for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 I guess either I'm getting a good deal or you're getting ripped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Dennis, YOU tell them what you want for them. If they sell them for $10, ask for $5 if they dont like that, take them out of the loop and sell for $7.50 privately Use that Buy, Sell & Xchange rag you have. Once ppl get to know that you have fish for sale, they'll start enquiring from you first b4 going to the LFS. Then you'll have your own little group of customers. THAT'S why the dealers aren't over impressed by breeders. A fair deal is all us breeders are looking for, K?? Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 LFS here gives me about half what they charge, specifically they give me same as they pay main supplier (seen price lists) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 the main shop by me i seen him pay like $2 for a fish then sell it for $12 or 50c and sell it for $4 that why I not selling him many fish selingl a lot privately now but it a big risk having them come to your home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Most pet shops aim to make no less than 100% on fish. Many others (Jansens) make no less than 100% + GST. Hence the reason it pays to shop around. Ohhh and my power bill is over $300 a month now, and I don't got no fish room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 wow whats all the power used on ? i think my power bill to much at about $100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriber Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Weren't the police talking about monitoring high power users, in an effort to catch those using strong lighting to grow certain plants? Got some special plants in that marine tank of yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Growing illegal coral, hehe. Mine is only around $150 a month and that's with a spa and underfloor heating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Ira said... > Mine is only around $150 a month ... Mines around that too, includes the fishroom, turtles in the garage and tanks in the house but I also grow non-aquatic plants under lights and so on. No spa and I don't use the pool filter since the goldfish don't seem to care ;-) I'm not too unhappy with the bill. Why else do we go to work if not to pay for our hobbys and lifestyle? Well, there's that whole 'living expenses' thing but that doesn't really count... Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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