wasp Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thankyou. This quote seems fitting :- Quote - "Occasionally, I say what other people are thinking, but are too afraid to post. " :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 i'm an avid photoshopper and nothing in that tank really stood out. except for 1 section in that last photo layton posted. other then that it looks like a normal pic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Have to agree, I still can't see it. Looks normal to me also, natural colours. But who am I to know? I am certainly many multiples lower than "Eistien" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Galileo? Da Vinci? Edison? Eistien? Yes Layton, you're just like them. I'm not comparing myself to them in that way wasp. Just explaining my philosophy on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Quote "Eistien" - Minor triviality like spelling is obviously beneath such genius. :roll: Never made a typo before wasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krama Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 In the long run, people appreciate a bit of reality, rather than "people pleasing" BS. Which is why I find that analogy someone made about their child so wrong. People should be encouraged to speak their mind. Rather that, than be too scared to think and speak freely Layton Iduncan The analogy was about the Posted topic, "leave it alone system", as my wife often says "It's not all about you...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Occasionally, I say what other people are thinking, but are too afraid to post. after all this time you still don't get it layton? it's not necessarily "what" you say, it's "how" you write it. as I've said before, coming across as a smart @#%^ know-it-all $#%@!# you get people's backs up before they even finish reading your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 :roll: Never made a typo before wasp? Not being a "free thinker" like, say, Galileo, I make typos all the time! :lol: I was just ribbing you dude! :lol: But hey, it's my birthday! You're off the hook ( for today ) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hell what about my spelling? I still like to think I can keep a fish or tow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Sheesh Duke looks like you and me both no "Eistein" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 :lol: Hi all. Having met Dave twice and seen his system when doing well a couple years ago I can tell you he has no reason to try and make corals look like something they're not. He's always been upfront and honest when talking about his system even when things have happened to it and everybody jumped on him for not taking measure to prevent it. I can also say that those pictures may or may not be altered. Hard to say since I know most of the pictures I end up with look so unreal before I even try to fix them. When I adjust color I aim at the coral and that usually leaves things like the rock looking like I have a new strain of coralline never before seen. Oh, and Wasp, have one for me. Happy birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I even try to fix them. When I adjust color I aim at the coral and that usually leaves things like the rock looking like I have a new strain of coralline never before seen. Maybe Iwan can help as he is the photo shop expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o2manyfish Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hey Guys, A couple of people sent me links to this thread. So I thought I would pop in and say Hi. So a couple of the questions that were brought up... Tank Longevity The 400g display tank is the continuance of a 18 year reef tank. I ran a 125g since 1989. During 2004 I upgraded the display tank to a 360g tank, and also created an outdoor frag system totalling about 1150g total. In 2005 I swapped out the 360g for a 400g tank, all acrylic with an entirely open top. The system is extremely automated. Currently the tank is part of an 1100g system, which includes a 360g Geo-thermal coolling tank, and a 250g sump. The display tank has about 22000 gph of flow, which is supplemented by a 26g surge tank mounted one floor up, which flows at roughly 28000gph via a 2" pipe and cycles about every 90 seconds to 2 minutes. Because a good portion of this system is outdoors, I get quite a bit of evaporation. During the winter I evaporate about 5-10g a day (even when it rains, their is evaporation from the surface area and the air movement. During the summer time, when the outdoor temperatures average 100 and this past summer we had a couple of weeks at 115 deg + (farenheit- so no one gets scared) the system evaporated close to 35g a day. With the massive evaporation, and top off via Kalkwasser, the system remains very very stable. There are no detectable levels of any of the ordinary tank stability culprits. I very rarely feed my fish. My opinion is that a well established and balance reef tank should be able to sustain itself. In the past several years I have suffered a couple of catastrophic losses. However, none of these are attributable to system instability. I suffered one loss (1300+ SPS pieces) when an act of nature converted my system to freshwater. I suffered another major loss 4 months later (500+ SPS pieces) when during the swap from the 360g to 400g tank my clams started to spawn. At the time I had over 40 clams in the system. Overnight they converted 1600g of water to peasoup with zero visibility. Even after massive water changes (700g & 1000g) visibility was only a couple of inches into the water. Now as for the "Photoshopping" rumors / comments. Photoshop was used to crop and save the photos. The only photo that had any photoshopping done to it is the one of the Blue Millie with the Blue clam behind it. There was NO photoshop color, contrast or balance changes to any of the other photos. My tank is lit by (8) 250 w Helios 20k DE bulbs. I use an Olympus camera and let it set the white balance. Which works well except for when shooting the blue corals and clams when in blue light. As for the accuracy of the colors. I can say that the colors in person are much nicer. Shooting 20K tanks and getting the richness of the colors to show up is difficult. In person the colors are brighter and more contrasting. The blue millie, in the photo being discussed, is an ORA frag that I have had for about a month. Its color is a rich metallic blue. However, for those who are photoshop mavens if you look at the colors for over saturation, notice that the clam shell is brown and beige - not blue. The zoa's are red in the back, and orange n the front. The blue dots on the live rock - which give the appearance of color alteration, are actually airbubbles on the live rock, after the surge tank went off reflecting the 20K lights from above. There is a live webcam on the camera. Tank lights turn on at 5pm Pacific Standard Time, and turn off around 2:30 am Pacific Standard time. Access to the webcam is on my home page at www.o2manyfish.com. If you have any questions please feel free to post or email me directly. Dave B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 No photoshopping at all! Always did wonder about Laytons "facts" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 but but but..... Laytons always right.... I'll have to go and lie down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 However, for those who are photoshop mavens if you look at the colors for over saturation, notice that the clam shell is brown and beige - not blue. So? Always did wonder about Laytons "facts" :lol: If only you knew what I do for a job (and have done for the 10 years) ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 u work???? I heard u were a schoolboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 paper delivery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 u work???? I heard u were a schoolboy ahaha yeah one that gets picked on........... then vents his fustration out on forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Thanks for posting Dave, that web cam is great! BTW you have an extra "." on the end of the URL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Thanks Dave, I've seen the odd post from you in other boards, but never realised you had such an amazing set up, and wealth of experience. Likewise the webcam, brilliant! Also, thanks for dispensing with that stupid photoshop insinuations / nonsense (which we have all heard, from the same source, before). To quote - " in the long run, people appreciate a bit of reality", good to see it given to someone who badly needs it. There are still some people who don't know what colorful acros look like I suspect that might be the problem. Anyhow from now on i'll be reading any posts of yours with a new appreciation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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