Chris.L Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 I got bored and started yaking to my parents about my future in fishkeeping and this is what I would like for my discus: 3 * 4ft x 2ft x 2ft tanks 1 * tank divided into a 30gal breeder Rest of the tank and 2 other tanks used for fry from the breeding pair or 1 * tank for quarantine. 1 * Breeding pair (not x's, maybe Marlboro Red or something similar). What are your future fishkeeping 'dreams'? Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Are we ignoring dreams like 2 meter tall by 3 meter by 3 meter concrete tanks? Right now I'd be happy with another 440 liter 4 foot tank for a marine tank and maybe another 100 liter tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 for those who have seen "about a boy", a large tank separating the kitchen from the lounge would be great. an eight foot dutch tank would be quite cool, although I don't think I could leave it as a dutch tank, probably end up as a community display or maybe a snapper display tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 6 foot reef tank 4 foot discus tank *2. 1 for breeding, 1 for display working on the 4 footers, 6 foot when we move to a bigger house :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Chris said... > What are your future fishkeeping 'dreams'? For there to be some more killies available here and for there to be more people keen on keeping/breeding them. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Interesting dreams. MGilchrist - 1 for breeding? What about growout tanks? Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Wow Andrew - just checked out ur site and I must say Killies and beautiful! Wish I could get some Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Chris said... > I must say Killies and beautiful! Wish I could get some ... You sometimes see Aphyosemion australe 'gold' for sale at either the Mt. Eden Jansens or Hollywood, there's a local guy who breeds them. The gold form of Aplocheilus lineatus has also been imported recently, apparently. Other species are available very occasionally. The best source of killies is the NZKA and its members. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Would they go with what I have though ? Guppies Discus Clown Loaches Neons Corys Bristlenose Catfish Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Chris.L said MGilchrist - 1 for breeding? What about growout tanks? Hmmm better add another, or maybe divide the breeding tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Chris said... > ... Would they go with what I have though ? Something like Aplocheilus panchax (or the occasionally available Aplo. dayi) would most likely be fine. Aplo. lineatus might try to eat the guppies and/or neons. Even male Aphyosemion scheeli or Aphyo. australe might be worth a go, or perhaps Fundulpanchax gardneri although they tend to be a bit more, er, robust... The main problem is getting the fish. Keep an eye on your LFS, you never know what'll turn up. I'm always keen to hear when people see killies in shops. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 I saw one killie in a shop at Pakuranga, Auckland. Only one in a tank by itself. All they had to name it was 'killie' and it was red. Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Initial dream would be space to have more tanks. As for what tanks I would like (other than more, more, more...) would be a 6' reef tank (that would definitely have a pair of Mandarin fish) and a 6' native tank - Charles' description of a lowland Puriri forest tank really struck a chord with me (a kokopu or three, school of inanga, bullies lurking on/under rocks, perhaps some freshwater shrimp and crayfish, don't know if the biolumeniscent freshwater limpets would last though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Gilchrist - You only need 29gallons for a breeding pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I still want my 32000L tank, 7.6m long, 1.8m high and 2.4m deep. I've got my Lotto ticket so maybe... (Hmm $17m should do it!) It would only cost about $10000 to build this into a new house. What put me off it was the $1000 a month in power to run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Hmmm, I'd think you could get it way below $1K/month without much trouble. Think of it as about an average indoor swimming pool or pond with some changes and they're FAR from $1K/month. Let's see...about a 1KW pump would probably turn that over once an hour, put it in more of a glasshouse to get natural light to cut down on heating and lighting costs so you can just use say 3-4 250 watt metal halides. Insulate really well around it and rig up a (retractable)plastic cover out of the stuff plastic greenhouses are made of to keep the heat in and cut down on evaporation hopefully not cutting out too much light. Heating could be aided by some coils going up onto a black roof in black tubing to be heated by the sun along with just keeping the room fairly warm. So, 1kw pump=24 kw/hr/day 1kw lighting=12 kw/hr/day 1kw heating(Guess)=24kw/hr/day That's 60 KW/hrs per day at about $.10 per kw/h makes it about $6 per day. That's only $180 a month. May be dim on cloudy days and a bit cool most of the time, but doable. Unless I'm massively underestimating some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilo Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Warren, Don't forget the cost of the scuba equipment for tank maintenance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 This is how it worked out: 4kW Pumps 24/7 = $374 4.8kW Lighting 12 hours a day = $224 8kW Heating @40% = $299 Total = $897/month based on a unit cost of $0.13 including GST. I didn't check comercial power rates as you'd need 3 phase to get the efficiency out of the pumps so there may be some saving. We are talking about a fairly decent sized tank after all. My 1200L tank costs about $40.00 a month. Based off that a 32000L tank (at 26.667 times bigger) would cost approx $1066. It would of course have to be a planted Discus tank with 300+ discus in it and 5000+ cardinals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I think most of that would be far more than you'd need though. You could cut down on the pumping by quite a bit, especially if you cut down on the fish some and you wouldn't need nearly that much light, even over a tank that big that's a LOT of light. Cut down to 2 kw and you'd still have enough light for low light plants if you want the tank planted. A lot less if you don't have it planted much. You could have a heap of lights just sitting turned off for if you want it nice and bright to show it off, but settle for dimmer most of the time. But you'd get a lot of free light if you've got it set up kinda like a greenhouse like I suggested. Running the tank a little cooler would help too. I suppose the only way to say for sure is to build it. But since it's a dream, might as well aim for best of everything. No snorkel when you could use scuba gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 It's a dream Warren so your power would be free :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Cool, I'll make it tomorrow 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Speaking of large tanks, I have always liked the idea of a large plywood tank, say 6ft by 4ft by 4ft. I have seen an article about a tank like this that was stocked with a massive school of tiger barbs. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 by my calculations if you invest your 17.1 million at 5% p.a. you are looking at a further $850000. minus your power off that and you are still making a profit on the interest. I'm sure most people could live quite comfortably on $200000 a year, so your surplus should be enough to start up another fish tank. (provided you are willing to invest your money straight away once you have won it.)by the way I think if you plan on donating some to charity those of us in the fishroom could all do with a newer larger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Must keep dreaming, - bummed out with Lotto :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 To upgrade my 700ltr reef to a 2000ltr+ reef, with plumbing over 1000ltrs. To have the plumbing miles away for the actuall tank inself (noisy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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