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should see mine, stuck in my shed

and 400w Lumenarcs???

.... reading that I think I my go starphire after all.

got a couple of frags off Jetski a while back. Nudis did there damage on it but its slowly coming back. Great encrusting coral.

must be the sand

the calcium reactor certainly can build (increase) alkalinity very quickly, like suphew said, my drippers clogged at times and if your not quick enough alkalinity can plunge, but soon builds back up. I can't do the same with calcium though.

Caryl, it would be good. Seems to be a couple of opposing camps, and if your not in, your not in :lol: :lol: :lol:

and loved the look on the wifes face when I said that I'd organise the new bigger tank

can vouch for that, saw the bite marks sorry to hear Skippy - forgot to ask why skippy??

wishful thinking about a functional club, nothing else Wasp, I enjoy these little agruements :lol: reef, I never get to know when these clubs nights are?? Do you let everyone know, do you have to join ?? is it affiliated to Fnzas?

fair enough wasp, still love to arrange a visit to yours and crackers. and I'm only 20' from jetskis place so anytime.

undertsand fruedian (sp?) slip.

I think it is same we don't have a functional marine club in Auckland. There is a whole lot of us that I'm sure would enjoy getting together, arranging tank tours, frag swaps etc. I'm sure if we were all talking face to face, we would get to undertsand each other better. wishful thinking??

seen your set up reef, and I'm sure if it was around the other way i.e. sand in the 4"ers and BB in your reef it would be the same. You wouldn't let your main display tank get dirty regardless if it was Sand or bb. My ref with sand bed is grubby, but thats they way the pods like it

I agree reef, its a bob both ways.

Layton has some good points. wasp, you need to have 2 identical tanks, both with all parameters the same, to really get an answer to your question. Its turning into an "over skimmed, un fed, nutrient poor BB tank" verses "an under or unskimmed tank with a dsb" argument rather than the original point, which was a discussion on how or if sand in a tank gives better colour. When we do the tank tours (I'll pm you,like to arrange this weekend if we are all free), you will be able to see some pretty good colours in my tank, with a bb, a 902 skimming well, a calcium reactor, lots of flow, and a sand bed in a refugium. Works for me, as Cookies way works for him and crackers way works for him.

hey Skippy, enjoyed the company and the tank Some very nice big softie showpieces in a good looking tank. Your doing a good job on that tank. It was a stunning day in Kerikeri, can't wait for the move.

the hairy ones are bad, same experience, one of my acros starting getting its tips hammered, would be growing well, then the tip would look all thin and break off. Out looking at tank one night with torch, and theres a big hairy gorilla crab munching away on it. He's now in the ref.

I've got one of the brown and black patterned ones Jansens was selling a while ago - reef bought them in i think - neat harmless fella, comes out now when i feed the fish.

shame your fish are eating him, brittlestars can be good housekeepers. .......some can be good fisherman as well

same.

read something saying they will be a very similar price to a std stream.

but if it scratches easy Chimera, don't think I do it.

oops sorry, thats the date of the article. :oops:

pretty old??? 2 yrs.