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Hi Antwan, Welcome to the Fishroom and hope you find lots of interest. Look foward to your posts.

Hi Tsarmina, Fish look pretty sad.. but where there's life there's hope. Daily salt baths "may" help. Get some "SEa Salt" from the supermarket.. (blue bag).. and treat the fish in a container of around one gallon (4.5ltrs) Use one heaped tablespoon of salt to start the first treatment. Leave the fish in the soloution for around ten to twenty minutes.. and watch for signs of undue stress. The next day increase the salt slightly.. and repeat the above. Do this each day for around a week and you will hopefully see some improvement.. plus new fin growth. What the salt does is it strips the old mucus from the fish and promotes new cell growth. Hope it goes well.. but no guarantees

Hi Angel, Welcome to the Fishroom Saw your other post in the Freshwater Section. You say that your water is cloudy and.... : Just wondering if your bore water contains a lot of lime making the pH quite high.. but also the fish shouldn't be freaking out like you mention unless there is something wrong with the conditions.. although I'm not too sure how Inangas behave normally. Would certainly be a good idea to do some water changes, and make sure you don't overfeed, which will cause other probs.

Welcome Alex, Hope you find your visits here interesting ones. Some of us are addicted to more tanks.. but we are all addicted to the NZ Fishroom There's a small gathering in the Chatroom around 9pm if you are into chatting

Hi James, Welcome to the Fishroom. You'll be in good company here Bill.

Snowman... Your advise is DANGEROUS and Deadly Some links here Kyle. Suggest you read up and heed the warnings. There is a circuit on the second link if you are "sure" what you are doing. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/wiring ... t9952.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/diy-ho ... t3248.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/wiring ... t4820.html Bill.

Yes James... there are quite a lot of "defects" in the males also.. but the question centres around the wasting away and the bent spines, and the cause. Most of the defects in the males are poor colour, poor finnage... poor size... and so on.. which again could amount to bad genes in the initial breeding stock. With the short maturing period of Guppies it doesn't take long for your good stock to become rubbish if you don't isolate and separate the sexes quickly. Once the fish with the defects fertilize your good stocks.. it could take many months to erradicate the problems that may follow. As Dimsum points out.. it seems to effect mainly the females, and seems to be more in the Guppies, which may be due to the high levels of crossing and breeding for perfection. Bill.

Guppy Aids.. Diseases.. or just Defects in the Gene Pool..? Many of us.. not only here, but it seems throughout the world, are having problems with Guppies wasting away and developing bent spines along with other problems. This is more prevalent today that in earlier years... which leads me to believe it is not what we seem to believe. The scaremongers and those that could not define an explanation for this were soon to attach various names to the problem, including Guppy Aids.. and Wasting Disease. Like many, I don’t have a one-hundred percent qualified answer to this problem, and can only tell others about my own situation. About a year or so back I had cleared my tanks of most of my general fish and decided to concentrate on Guppies. I still have a few Angels.. (retired).. plus a few Gouramies, but nothing of great interest. Up until this point I didn’t own a single Guppy of any description, and when I “did†finally purchase some, I made absolute sure that they were from good stock and were breeding true. There were two pairs that captured my interest.. one being a Blue Phantom type, which has a rather nice blue body and a flowing cloudy blue to white delta tail and fins. The other pair was (what I would call).. a Half Red Flamenco, which has a half red body with a flaming red delta tail. I have others.. but these are the ones I decided to concentrate mainly on. Strict isolation was given to these fish, and fry were removed to individual tanks as soon as sexable, as I needed virgin females. Both pairs have produced some nice fish, but unfortunately I lost the Flamenco female after she gave birth to a heavy brood. This fish became so thin after the drop that she seemed as though she didn’t have the energy or will to get back into condition.. despite the best of conditions and food. So then I was stuck with a male Flamenco.. but no female.. but fortunately the drop she made were all pretty close to form, and all the males produced had flaming red tails just like the male, and the females were all much like the original female.. so all in all I wasn’t too upset about losing the main female. Now around this point is where I “think†all the probs started… for up until around three months ago I didn’t have a single fish with any deformity or illness. I had decided to cross this lone Flamenco male with a random female that my son bought on one of his LFS trips. This was a decent looking female with a large sound body and shape, but mainly was just the basic greyish green that the common Guppy has, and had some basic colouring in the tail, some of which was red. The offspring from these looked fine for the first few months… but then I started to notice a few that had started to develop the bent spine.. and a small number had begun wasting away and had died or were culled. The Phantoms were kept within their line.. and as of yet, not deformities of any kind. The Flamenco offspring strain have gone on to breed with the virgin females.. and again.. no probs. So.. what have I learned..? It is my belief that all this talk of Guppy Aids and the Wasting Away Disease is all just that.. talk and a myth. First off is the fact that this so called aids is not contagious.. as far as my test have proved… and the wasting could be a number of factors, including heavy births that have stressed the female out to a large degree. I truly believe that these problems are “inherited†ones.. that are passed on through the gene pool by the “femaleâ€.. and “not†the male. The fish we have today are the direct descendants of a long line of mixed bag Guppies, among which were possibly some highly bred strains that took years to perfect. The breeders overseas have one goal.. and that is money. In order to make that money they need to produce fish with outstanding looks and quality. The purchaser at the end of the chain has no clue whatsoever how these fish were produced.. or what hidden genes (good or bad).. are hidden inside these beautiful looking fish. Often in fish breeding something can be pushed to one side in favour of a seemingly more important factor.. in other words the virility and longevity of the fish is sacrificed in order to give the public the outstanding looks that they have now become to expect. What can we do…? Simple answer is to get the best stock you can, and from a reliable source if possible. From here, you are on your own, as the seller may have no knowledge of how the offspring might look or fare. Allowing those deformed fish that you may have to breed.. will then just add to the countries problem.. so again, the answer is simple… Cull every fish that shows the slightest sign of a bent spine or wasting.. as there is “no cure†.. and no matter what you do, the end of the line will lead to the same result… the demise of the fish... plus more defects being fed into our stocks If there is the “slightest†chance that one of these deformed fish has bred.. then isolate it if possible and dispose of it and its offspring as soon as possible. It may be hard to do.. but it’s the only way if we are to eradicate this major prob we have. Again.. in my estimation this is not a disease as such.. but just a bad set of genes, that one day the breeders will find, and hopefully remove from our breeding lines. Next project… A few weeks back I spotted an “All Black†Guppy in among some of the young fish. It is a young male which is developing really well, and is totally black apart from a bright yellow outline around his flowing delta tail. Will keep you posted he he. Take care now

If you look here... http://www.ak.planet.gen.nz/~bio/ .. you will find that MW cultures are $20:40... PLUS freight..

Hi Copper, Great to have you join us Time for a few more tanks by the sound of things he he. Bill.

Sorry to hear about your weekend Fay, and hope you are fine now. Had a fair few trips out there myself.. plus the odd few that have been cancelled without warning.. and even when you get out there you can still have a few hairy moments on the trip back. We had done the Sugar Loaf (my first 150ft dive).. and were up at the Lighthouse when a message came over the radio. There was a storm approaching, and all skippers were warned to either take cover or head back in. We headed back.. along with another charter that was close by. The water was like glass.. and we were all mystified what the panic to get back was all about, as the weather at that time looked fine. We came around from the Knights Islands, and there in the distance was this black looming cloud.. but still the sea was fairly calm.. then suddenly this huge swell lifted the 70 odd foot boat clean out of the water and the twin screws on the props were screaming as they turned out of the water due to the swell. The boat came down with a thump, and the sea heaved up with three and four metre swells. The other boat was around 500 yards from us, but the only time we could see it was when we were high on the crest of the huge swells. The ride back down these big swells was both exciting and "very" frightening as the boat lurched around trying to keep upright. At times you could touch the water over the side as the boat rocked in the swells, and at times the waves would crash over the sides drenching everyone and everything. I had never been sea sick in my life, and had been in some real bad seas.. but I was sick that day. One guy watched as I pewked over the side and laughed shouting.. "What's up old man.. can't you handle a bit of a swell" I went below, and an hour later we had hardly moved, and I came topside. My mate pointed to the guy with the loud mouth. He was laying in a pool of his own stomach contents (meat pies and Lion Red I think from memory).. on the floor of the boat. Three hours later and it was almost dark.. but we finally made it in.. but I don't think there was a single person that hadn't said a few prayers that day.. and even the skipper was looking a bit peakish when we landed. Wonderful place to dive Fay, and one you will never forget. Bill.

Alan said: Then: Sorry... but I'm a little confused here :oops: Bill.

Sounds about right.. And if it were me... I would also add another longtitude brace across the back also. Where are you from BTW. You can add your location in your profile. Bill.

Hi there Lisa, Glad you decided to join us.. and a warm welcome to the NZ Fishroom. Real sorry I didn't have the info on your frogs first hand.. but there are quite a few here keep them. BTW: The thread I started for you is here... http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/bloate ... 10187.html Hope you enjoy the site

I changed the title to avoid confusion.. plus edited and removed some unwanted remarks. Sorry guys.. but we want no upsets here More editing. Please settle down or the thread will be locked. Bill.

What a poor attitude this is herefishiefishie. The guidelines are there for a purpose.. and yes... they won't please "everyone" all of the time.. but 90% of the users here are happy to comply with them... and you would be hard pressed to find any site that will just allow you to post pics of any size without restriction. Both yourself and Paul (and many others).. have posted some amazing pics on this site.. and nobody has ever complained about the quality.. even though they were within the specs set by the Admins. You are also in Australia... which "could" make a big difference. If you want to "really" impress us all with your huge pics... then post the link.. and if we are interested we will take the time to view them. Paul said: So you are going to give up all the nice people and friends that you have made, along with all the great pleasure you must have derived from this site over the years, over a small issue like this..? Unbelievable. Bill.

Hi again Combo, Spoke to the Admins about the split, but as you have not really gone into details about your tank or posted any pics on the site, it has been decided by the Admin that it would be better if you start off your own thread and allow this one to continue on topic. Look forward to your posts and pics Regards, Bill.

Recieved a cry for help from Canada in the mail this morning that I am unable to answer through lack of knowledge on the subject. Can anyone help. Many thanks in advance. I will forward the link to the writer and she may join Bill.

Combo said: I am not the Moderator for this section Combo.. but the Mods do their best to watch all postings to keep this site a happy friendly place that ALL the family can visit... I will see if the split can be arranged. Regards. Bill.

Cath asked: http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/postin ... t2406.html Paul said:

Fantastic pics on your site Combo. Looks like you have a great deal that will interest others on this site... so why not start your own thread.. plus add your location to your profile to avoid further confusion. BTW: We know this was said in fun... but please be warned that using more than one ID can result in an "instant" ban. Come on guys.. talk about Marines and make the newcomers feel welcome without all these negative posts. Bill.

Didn't know they sold shubunkins that small.. but if they are only that size... then they "might" be ok for a week or so if you take care not to overfeed and do partial water changes maybe twice a week. What area are you in...? Perhaps someone local might have a cheap tank. You can edit your profile to show your location... makes this a lot easier. Bill.

Hi Paul, Can't understand why you are having probs. The size limit for "everyone" is 640x480.. and you have posted quite a number in that section without any probs... and "all" that size by the look of things... so what has changed..? http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/breedi ... t8597.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/700l-c ... t8596.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/krib-tanks-vt5129.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/nd-com ... t5128.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/guppy-tank-vt5127.html I'm on Dialup... and they all loaded pretty quick for me... plus the quality was top notch. Bill.

Quite right here BK in "some" instances. Going by the size given, I would think three days would be fine.. however.. with a larger tank.. (Bigger fillets on the seams).. then yes.. a week would be a better option. Bill.

Not used the Sellys brand.. I use RTV Silflex Professional for Glass and Ceramics... by Fosroc.. but if you have just resealed it and it has failed... then chances are the joint wasn't clean.. or you left some of the old "loose" silicone still on the joint. Once it has cured.. the seal would stand up to even a water blaster... so I don't think that was the prob. Many of the hi-tech aquarium silicones today will seal and cure underwater.. like if you have a small leak... but in your case it is a structural defect.. and needs to be "fully" cured before you do a refill. Bill.