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Hmmm, I'd thought Draino was Calcium hydroxide...

Pbbt, yeah right.

Haven't tried kalk because I don't have any. :lol: The kapimana club meeting's at your place tomorrow, isn't it? Can I buy some kalk off you then?

Where's a good place to get it and how much? Got some aptaisia that need killing...

I'd say so. At the very least given the difficulty of buying fish locally it forced me to be more patient...

Originally my budget was $1000. At the time I blew that by maybe $100 or so but had a fish only like I was aiming for with a skimmer that was probably overkill. Of course, my goal only stayed a fish only for something like 9 months, now it's a basic soft coral/LPS tank. (That needs more fish, soft corals and LPS!)

Streams are overkill for a FOWLR, same for the T5s, you want that much light DIY a MH or buy a second hand one, but you don't need the light. Chiller, unnecessary especially if you don't have the MHs heating up the water. If the tank is still too warm, get a fan, my tank I wouldn't need anything except leaving the lids off if it wasn't for the lights. Books...Replace with $25/month internet account. I don't include the livestock in pricing because that's a lot more personal and variable, IMO. And since when does fish only include leathers, torch or brain corals? So, that's about $3000 that shouldn't be included in your estimate.

Reverse Osmosis for purifying topoff water. 1 liter of of nice clean water for 5-10 liters of slightly dirtier water.

What would you consider NECESSARY for a FOWLR that would add up to that much? By my math, for an average 4ft being on the high side for prices.. 4ft tank Dunno, say $1000 inc stand. Base rock: $300 Skimmer: $500 A couple flouro fittings $100 RO $200?(Haven't looked at prices) Heater: $30 2-3 Power heads: $100 Test kits $100 Refractometer $120 Then add whatever livestock on top of that. So say about $2500 and that's with a skimmer that would be better than you need for just fish. You can get the tank for heaps cheaper than $1000 and odds are you'd already have one. So that's heaps less, same can be said for the heater. Now, if you want to make wavemakers, temp controllers, calcium reactors, peristaltic pumps as others here would suggest, just for your fish...Then yeah, it can cost that much... Let's see, the equipment I have that would be necessary for just a FOWLR would be about $1300, most of that being a POS Deltec skimmer and rock.

I need to get some, all it seems to do for me using boiling water is give me a nice big white splotch of coraline and more aptasia. But I'm using a turkey baster.

I have about 300 not including sump and I only have around 20Kilos total. Need more though. IMO, I'd go more with putting the nicely shaped and sized pieces in the main tank and the bad ones in the sump. After awhile you won't be able to tell the difference anyway.

Joes juice is pretty well known. DOn't know how new it is...

Any live rock you get, other than small fragments corals are attached to, you'll have to get from someone else's tank. You can get base rock which is live rock that's been dried out, steam blasted, irradiated and called dirty names before it's allowed in the country, though. For about the same price most countries can get live rock.

Want 50 pearl gouramis to go with them? They look great schooling too.

Ideal small tank dimensions are 1200X600X600.

It's really sad when the best fish store is Animates. When I win lotto I'll fix that.

Your tank, your money, your fish, you're the one that'll be maintaining it, get what you want. Although, I don't like oscars either.

It's not likely the store had strong lighting, so as far as the individual anemone is concerned there's not much of a difference over it being in his tank or the fish store's tank. I've had mine for 2 months or so, it had tentacles about half an inch long, almost spherical when I got it. Been feeding it a piece of shrimp every other day and its tentacles are looking much better, but it's still pale yellow in sunlight to white under the tank lights. Unfortunately, all that feeding added to my skimmer deciding to stop skimming seems to have made my nitrates jump.

Hmmm, 4 ft by 2 ft by 2ft is 16 cubic feet which is 119.6 gallons=452 liters. That's of course ignoring the glass thickness. My tank, which is approx the same size I measured by the inside of the glass came out to about 440 liters.

A coat of pain? So that's where the blood, sweat and tears saying comes from...

I've heard just as many people saying that most pods are totally unharmed by going through a pump's impeller. I seriously doubt it kills as many as 95% of the pods. And if it does kill a few of them then they're bristleworm food.

Where do you get diaphragm water pumps? I've never seen one.

Yeah, pretty much all they are is a motor to rotate a nozzle back and forth 90? degrees. Advantage, you don't lose flow due to having a little turbine or similar in the water flow to rotate the nozzle. Disadvantage, big and expensive. I'm thinking I might prefer a handful of hydro...Hydor...WHatever nozzles like I got off Chimera on a closed loop. Even cheaper than an OM squirt and a couple of heads for it. Problem is lower flow, only around 1200L per hour per head.

Try filter wool over the pump intake. Worked great for me even after 90% water changes every day, no light etc.

Do we have to go through this AGAIN? What is this? The 3rd or 4th time? The head will be exactly the same if the outlet is barely below the surface of the water as if it was 2 feet below the water. It's the height from surface of the sump's water to the surface of the tank's water that is important. Go grab a siphon, start it siphoning into a bucket with the hose just below the surface and measure how long it takes to fill the bucket up. Pour the water back in, now push the hose to the bottom of the tank and siphon with the end the same height above the bucket. Guess what? It'll take exactly as long as before. Now dump the bucket on your carpet as punishment for making me go over this again.