Yes thank you for your information,3rd batch devoured seen the chap I bought them from and he advised the same as you to decrease the PH to about 6 to 6.2 , has has bred Discus for a very long time and said this will help them to stop eating the egggs , hopefully they aren't to slow at learning parenting but time will tell , my golden suns have paired off now so I guess I will have double the drama