reef Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I need photos of the following livestock. if you think i missed something please email me, please email me if you have any of these items on [email protected] Email me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaymann Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 can understand not transfering species between trop areas but temperate areas are totally different ... as I said before , have ya all dipped ya nads in tropical waters then tried it over here ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 That's what you have to convince ERMA of. That is the whole point of risk assessment. Some things are so robust they don't mind being in temperate or tropical waters. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 It is only partially to do with transferring species to NZ waterways, but mostly to do with the Bio hazard to humans. The requirements we've had set for us are already law (decided by politicians). Whether the law is actually a good one or not is unfortunately irrelavent. It's been passed and isn't likely to be changed as 'Egg-on-face' is pretty hard for some to wipe off... We've only got until the 15th of November to complete the list. Please snap them photo's and get them on the official form to Reef or me. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Done. I'll let you know when they get back to me. Dont even waste your time, i doubt a phone call is going to change the law. As i said i need people to email me if they have any of the above. i dont need people to post the pics on the forum. here is the erma web site. http://www.ermanz.govt.nz/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hay reef, all Corals and Fish seemed to arrive in good shape, cheers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaymann Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think we should introduce the " nad test" to MAF .. get the maf officers to dunk them in the local waters to see how they like it! ... if any trop species can handle it more than the MAF officers then they deserve to be here :lol: .. because with global warming .. in 5-10 years they will be here anyway ... look at the bay of islands , frog fish and coral banded shrimps are already there , plus had word from long term diver that a lionfish was at the poor knights .... so it's only a matter of time... tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik ................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Can you please point me in the direction of what act the the new rules come under? What aspect has made them concerned with bioharzards to humans? I understand this is waste of time reef, however I might just learn something. What better way to learn never attempting to change the world than by trial and failure? Perhaps it could inspire my new book- The Insignificance Of One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Maf and Erma are reviewing the import health standard as it has not been updated for a long time. Once the review is complete people will be able to make submissions as to any changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 It is only partially to do with transferring species to NZ waterways, but mostly to do with the Bio hazard to humans. You can import knifes, guns, drugs, sharp sticks, cigaretts and alcahol. A few corals in the hands of the pet industry seems silly. The thing that I find really silly is that 'soft coral A is allowd, but soft coral B isn't' No explination as to why, just isn't. Live rock isn't allowed in, but corals attached to live rock is (in that MAF inspects all the shipments that come in and much see the rock, but don't care). Bah, business as usual I guess. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveA Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 It's just that the bureaucratic boiler has decided it needs another log. There is no way they will give up on it as they have the power and the closest thing bureuroctats have to a life is the opportunity to use their power to push the remaining 1/3 of the population around. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 In Australia when they attempted something similar, a breeder in Q'land threatened to release thousands of oscars into the wild. The idea got shelved. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Pies, arent you allowed to import live rock? Where does everyone get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Pies, arent you allowed to import live rock? Where does everyone get it? nope! make your own. people breaking down tanks and sell up, people buy dead base rock and have the live rock "seed" it etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 That must make things a lot harder!!! When did they make that rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 It's been that way for years, and in my opinion is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't care if we can only get base rock and no live rock. At least you know what is going in the tank, no surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 i like surprises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I don't like surprises which kill stuff I spend a lot of money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 please email me if you have any of these items on [email protected] Heliofungia actiniformis Herpolitha limax Blastomussa Blastomussa loyae Blastomussa merleti Blastomussa wellsi Nemenzophyllia turbida Scolymia australis Scolymia cubensis Scolymia lacera Scolymia vitiensis Scolymia wellsi Millepora Millepora Dichotoma Millepora Playphylla WELLSOHPHYLLIA RADIATA HELIOPORA COERULEA ricordea yuma ricordea florida amplexidiscus fenestrafer discosoma spp rhodactis cf.inchoata rhodactis cf.indonsinensis rhodactis cf.mussoides Klyxum aasp (Alcyonium sp) Discosoma cardinalis Discosoma coeruleus Discosoma marmoratus Discosoma mutabilis Paralemnalia aasp DENDROPHYLLIA FISTULA /SUN POLYPS (L) LEMNALIA ANTHELIA ALCYONIUM PALMATUS CLAVULARIA VIRIDIS SOLENOPADIUM Lemnalia Discosoma malaccensis (common) Discosoma striatus (stripe) Discosoma marmoratus (marmer) Discosoma ferrugatus (red) Discosoma punctatus (spotted) Discosoma coeruleus (blue) Discosoma coeruleo-striatus Discosoma plumosa Rhodactis cf. Indosinensis Discosoma hairy (green) Discosoma sp. (hairy) Metarhodactis sp. (tong) Metarhodactis sp. (green) Amplexid. fenestrafer pro/ear Ricordea florida Ricordia sp. (Indonesia) Ricordia sp. (Indonesia green hermit crab blue linkia star fish gorgonia turbo snails Nassirius Snail SPIROGRAPHIS SPALLANZANII/WHITE FEATHER DUSTER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 still waiting for emails. Brianemone , the blastamussa photo would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Half that stuff u have in yr own house!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I need these photos to get them added to the list. Steve Wood go and do something instead of pissing me off, i am spending hours to get things added and as usual you do nothing. Actually what have you ever done for the hobby, let me quess, NOTHING. Will also need some fish photos soon, like flame hawkfish. pseudochromis, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Heliofungia: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Herpolitha limax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 cracker , you need to email me the photos, i dont want them on the thread as it will slow it down. Also the photo has to be signed, all i want at this stage is to find out who has these items so i can get the photos sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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