Insect Direct Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I dunno tbh I am new to these. They seem to put on the beef very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 A little over weight yes, just feed less over the coming winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montyfish Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I still reckon he'd be 100 grams even after losing some of his love handles. Do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montyfish Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hey guys, Im reopening this thread because, like some of you suggested, I reduced his feedings down, feeding him less each meal and only feeding him twice a week (whereas before it was 2-3 times a week). However he has gained weight and is now 116 grams? He is going to the toilet fine. Can anyone help me understand this? I was feeding him crickets for a long time but reverted back to mealworms because ran out. I reduced the number of mealworms compared to what he was previously getting before the crickets. Could the change from crickets to mealworms be the reason? Thanks; Jack lizardlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Mine have a dish of mealworms in the enclosure 24/7 and they don't get as big as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 The mix of chromosomes in your lep may be what has produced its size, will be interesting to see if it carries to the offspring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hey guys, Im reopening this thread because, like some of you suggested, I reduced his feedings down, feeding him less each meal and only feeding him twice a week (whereas before it was 2-3 times a week). However he has gained weight and is now 116 grams? He is going to the toilet fine. Can anyone help me understand this? I was feeding him crickets for a long time but reverted back to mealworms because ran out. I reduced the number of mealworms compared to what he was previously getting before the crickets. Could the change from crickets to mealworms be the reason? Thanks; Jack Not many people use crickets solely yet as people still prefer cheap and easy and what I think is semi unnatural (mealworms). The growth rates (not just geckos) I see here, on crickets, even at low temps and minimal feeds blows my mind at times. 14 eggs from one female and she started laying at 30g. Probably just genetics though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montyfish Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 The mix of chromosomes in your lep may be what has produced its size, will be interesting to see if it carries to the offspring. Unfortunately my parents aren't keen on having a leopard gecko family so I don't think I would be allowed to breed him myself. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 What sort of supplements do you use and how much of each? I see they often use 3:1 or even 4:1 multivitamin to calcium powder overseas in order to try and boost the mealworms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 http://www.leopardgecko.com/giants some over 170grams just checked my largest and is only 77g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I would go really easy on too much vitamins as the fat soluble vitamins cannot be excreted when overfed and are toxic. I have seen the result of a lep being fed vitamins on all live foods rather than calcium and it was not a pretty site. I have also seen the result of people overfeeding and that is not a pretty site either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montyfish Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I would go really easy on too much vitamins as the fat soluble vitamins cannot be excreted when overfed and are toxic. I have seen the result of a lep being fed vitamins on all live foods rather than calcium and it was not a pretty site. I have also seen the result of people overfeeding and that is not a pretty site either. Hi, I only give multivitamin powder every four feedings and calcium with d3 two out of four feedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 that's what surprised me Alan. Sasobek seems to produce a few and is using 4:1 multi to calcium. ive been doing 1:1 mix of flukers calcium to multi vitamin. only dusted on cricket though - traces only last upto 24hours ish? wonder if should do more calcium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have raised leps in the past with added calcium with D3 and no other added vitamins and they have been perfectly OK. Vitamins A,D,E and K are toxic if fed to excess. I feed liquid vitamins on salad twice a week to beardies. I can't understand the desire to get a big fat lizard---a fat lizard is as healthy as a fat person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 http://www.leopardgecko.com/giants some over 170grams just checked my largest and is only 77g Line bred, so down to genetics Several of his sons and grandsons are over 170 grams in other collections!!! Here, we have Super Giant males about to pass the 170 gram level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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