SamH Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My silver angelfish have spawned 4-5 times in the past but leaving them with the eggs has always resulted in them eating the eggs. This time I was fortunate that they laid eggs on a well placed magnetic algae scraper. I have since moved the eggs into their own 20L aquarium, added Wunder Tonic (1.5% meth blue) and put a gently bubbling air stone beneath the eggs to keep them well oxygenated. I'll be starting a brine shrimp hatch shortly and will stagger it with another hatch in 24hrs. Is there anything else I can do to give these eggs the best chance possible? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Sounds to me like you have done all you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 and cross your fingers they are fertile ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Wunder tonic has a lot more than meth blue in it but good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Wunder tonic has a lot more than meth blue in it but good luck. I did read the bottle before use, with Methylene blue as the main active ingredient I thought it would be okay. Just over 48hrs since they were laid and so far I've removed half a dozen infertile eggs, all the other eggs looking very healthy and mould free. Just done an 80% water change, added a sponge filter and a few more drops of Wunder Tonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Lots of eyes - looking very good :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We have wrigglers! A few have fallen off the algae scraper but most are stuck onto it and wriggling way. Is now the time to turn off the air pump and start the brine shrimp hatchery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 They look pretty good. They will stay on there and wiggle then fall off and wiggle then one morning they will swarm. That is when they have absorbed the yolk sac and are looking for food. You feed brine shrimp nuplii then. I have hatched angels in just water, with meth blue, with malachite green,with acriflavine and combinations of all three but not with quinine. You have done the lot and it seems to have worked--well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 My brine shrimp took around 36 hours to hatch last time so I'll need to start them before the angels are ready for food. Roughly when would they be ready for food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 You can start hatching the brine shrimp on friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm up to my fourth brine shrimp hatch and the fry still aren't ready to eat yet. I'll feed them tonight or tomorrow depending on how much of their yolk sac they have left. Here's a still from a macro video I took: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Good work. Maybe get some fry powder as a backup, though if you have success with the brine shrimp then you'll have a much better survival rate. Baby angels are the cutest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 No need for backups, shrimp hatching is easy! Might need to order more eggs but I'm freezing the excess. Definitely the cutest baby fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 When they are free swimming they are looking for food and not before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yeah I picked up on that, siphoned out all the brine shrimp and froze heaps from the early hatches. Keeping up the 80% daily water changes to maintain a high water quality. Came home from work around 5pm today and they were all free swimming in a group, now a few have "clumped" together in groups of 8-16, is this a defence mechanism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I guess, or to make a decent mouthfull. Not a problem anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 They're back to normal this morning so I tried feeding them again, this time they were observed actively chasing and eating brine shrimp. Planning on feeding them 4 times a day for the first month or so. Does anyone have any tips on how to do a slower, more gentle water change to avoid scaring the fry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I used to use an airline on my fighter fry when doing water changes. Painfully slow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I have an airline rig and an 8L water change takes around 20 minutes, I just pour it in more slowly now. Fry are doing very well, having 4-5 feeds of BBS per day they always have orange bellies full of food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 It's been almost two weeks since the eggs were laid, only lost about half a dozen fry so far, the rest are about the size of 3 day old guppy fry (5mm). Been feeding BBS 4 times a day and keeping up the 80% water changes, the question is where to from here? What are some other good foods I should introduce to them? I'm clearly going to need a bigger tank, what would be the ideal size tank to raise them from this size until they're ready for sale? Cheers guys 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think brine shrimp nuplii have the best food value but you could start adding grindal worms and very small daphnia when they are big enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Angels are at 2 weeks of age now and more than ready to move out of their nursery tank, looking for a decent sized tank if anyone in Auckland has one for sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Finally moved them to their new 180L tank (900x450x450). Move went smoothly, counted 247 but they look so small in this tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 That is a good spawning--you have done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yeah 247 is impressive especially if this is your first time breeding angels. Well done! Kudos to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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