Midas Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 Does anyone have any experience in using dog roll as a fish food? Someone I met told me that they had used it in the past with quite a lot of success, good growth rates and big heathy fish, but I don't trust him 100%. He said the only problem he had was making sure you didn't over feed as left overs polluted the tank quite badly if left in the water. But this is a problem with all foods I guess. I thought it might be ok to fed it to some of my cichlids as part of their diet. Haven't really checked out whats in the stuff yet, but surely it wouldn't be that different to the home made stuff people make with beaf heart etc? Probably got a few preservatives etc in it. I guess that is an advantage of making your own food, you know excatly whats in it. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 I gather a number of people use dog or cat food. It would be ok as one of different foods. Some people use crushed dog biscuits too. Doesn't have quite the right ingredient mix to feed solely (no pun intended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuhliloach Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 I remember reading an article somewhere about feeding Cichlids dog roll, basically said the same as you have said. Don't remember where I read it though. There is a dog roll factory at the back of where I work most of a dog roll seams to be fat they also put a bit of Salmon in too not sure what else They get in this stuff up to there knees and put it in bins to put in a giant mixer, makes your stomach churn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 What does it smell like? Can you smell it at your workplace? Did you notice it was jellybaby day at the lolly factory today? (Kuhli and I live in the same street with a lolly factory just down the road. On calm days you can smell it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 Where do they get all the babies from, Blenheim is only a small town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 We apparently have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 Well, that it explains it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuhliloach Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 No I didn't know that Caryl went down there the other day but they didn't seem to have much. Yes some days we can smell the dog roll factory but not too often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 I'd think you'd be ok feeding dog roll as part of the fish's diet. Make sure it's one of the good brands though. There are some that are really crap...Like the one that killed a lion at the wellington zoo.(I think it was the wellington zoo) I think the best is supposed to be...Ummm...Well, I was going to look in the fridge but the dog roll is all chopped up. Pedigree premium? Comes in blue, gold and silver rolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 After one has fed one's fish on dog roll, can one then teach one's fishes to sit, beg, roll over and fetch? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 My fish already beg for food when it gets close to dinner time, so they're halfway there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Hi guys, i've thought about this one before.. basically, it's not advisable, simply because the nutritional requirements of a fish r extremely different to a dog.. duhhh...surprise!! BUT, if u use it judiciously, it can possibly b useful, esp if the other ingredients in the fish's diet r lacking in certain nutrients. THIS, would b the main purpose or shall we say advantage ot feeding such novel foods--as a supplement of vitamins, minerals etc. Firstly, it's probably better to consider catfood rather than dogroll. cats have a higher requirement for amino acids/protein than dog....it's still not as high as fish, but closer. The geriatric products maybe more suitable, as they have a lower fat content( too much fat n energy is not good for fishes). As long as u limit the amount fed to perhaps 5% of the fish's total dietary intake, there shouldn't b any problems.... i won't go over 5-10% in the long term. The main risk is a toxicity problem with certain minerals or even vitamins. Cats for e.g require high levels of taurine and niacin in their diet. now, i'm not sure how much taurine or niacin fishes in general require, but if fed longterm, it might produce certain side-effects that mayb obvious, or less conspicuous... n we're not just talkin about taurine n niacin, there r heaps of other nutrients that r totally unbalanced.... well, i guess feeding such stuff instead of say beefheart is alot more nutritious( check out the large list of ingredients in dog/catfood). But, it's definitely no replacement for fish food, n should just b treated as a supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted October 15, 2002 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 We apparently have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the country! I thought that title belonged to Hawera? At least according to Havoc and News Boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Perhaps they have overtaken us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Don't look at me, I haven't been anywhere near any Hawera teenagers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Ha! You should be so lucky! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted October 15, 2002 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Think I'll do some investigations into the composition of different pet foods and see how they stack up. Wayne, how much do they actually teach regarding fish/aquaculture during Vet? I ask because most vets I've come across don't seem to know much about fish. I guess there is not a very big market for fishy vet graduates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Vets in general are even more clueless about fish than they are about birds. If it doesn't have 4 legs you're usually better off researching yourself than trying to ask a vet what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Not a lot Midas, not alot.. in fact, we only had a couple of lectures on fish medicine, and a wet-lab involving cytology( microscope, anesthesia etc). That's about it for fish really. we do alot more with birds. A whole series of lectures on chook diseases..plus we currently have a resident avian specialist who takes on regular bird cases from owners, breeders, D.O.C etc. well, guess there's just too much nonfish stuff to know in the first place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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