Sophia Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 do you mean Aviverm? Vertebrate pesticide 4-Aminopyridine is also used under the trade name Avitrol as .5% or 1% in bird control bait. It causes convulsions and typically death, depending on dosage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Aminopyridine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 the Avitrol plus is the one you want, it is a Prazi/levi mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 the Avitrol plus is the one you want, it is a Prazi/levi mix Yes, that's the stuff I got :cr9: I treated the tank last night, I think (if I worked it out correctly) it's 1ml for 200 litre tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't know, I only have the instructions for Aviverm. keep us posted because if he fattens up again I will get some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=48 recommends 1mL per 5L, I used 1mL per 2L for a short term bath on a small cichlid, didn't seem to hurt it and cleared the worms well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I would read http://www.loaches.com/Members/shari2/levamisole-hydrochloride-1 has all the maths near the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 true, loaches are less tolerant of medications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=48 recommends 1mL per 5L, I used 1mL per 2L for a short term bath on a small cichlid, didn't seem to hurt it and cleared the worms well. That's 40ml! I only bought a 25ml bottle! :cr4: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I would read http://www.loaches.com/Members/shari2/levamisole-hydrochloride-1 has all the maths near the bottom Not sure how to convert mg to ml. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't know, I only have the instructions for Aviverm. keep us posted because if he fattens up again I will get some. He's got thinner, and until someone advises how much I should dose a 200 litre tank, he will continue to do so! :nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 one ml of water weighs one mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 one ml of water weighs one mg If we measure our tanks in Liters: 2.36 x (the size of your tank in liters) = mg/L of Levamisole HCl to treat your tank. Then that means I have to add 472ml of the stuff, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 2 ppm is 2mg/litre of active ingredient which is the part without the hydrochloride or the water that it is in. What concentration of liquid do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 8.48mg/ml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Anyone want to check my calculations---I would be pleased. Each ml contains 8.48 x 50/59 = 7.1864mg of active ingredient You need 2ppm in 200litres = 2mg/litre = 400mg in 200litres You therefore require 400/7.1864 mls of your solution You need to add 55.7mls of your solution to 200 litres of water Back to the shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Anyone want to check my calculations---I would be pleased. Each ml contains 8.48 x 50/59 = 7.1864mg of active ingredient You need 2ppm in 200litres = 2mg/litre = 400mg in 200litres You therefore require 400/7.1864 mls of your solution You need to add 55.7mls of your solution to 200 litres of water Back to the shop? That seems excessive - Sophia can you please clarify if this is how much you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Someone just check the maths please. The stock solutions could be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I am bad at maths, I would be asking someone else to help me :oops: . Also my stuff is not the same so we can't compare it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=48 states 1ml for 5 L, so 200L / 5 = 40mL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I have a 25ml bottle - cost $20 too, so guess I'll have to get some more :-? Sophia, what do you use and how much is it? I'll ask the vet to see if they stock that as well (if it's the same and possibly cheaper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Aviverm is just the levimisol, its normally around the $20-30, just in 100mL bottles Avitrol plus is better as it contains both of the main wormers, just a bit pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I have Aviverm, which was 8ml for $8. I think the bigger bottles were better value but I only bought a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I just added the whole 25ml bottle of Avitrol plus so will see how it goes :sick: I don't think my vet is open tomorrow so may not be able to get a second bottle until tomorrow after work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 watch fish for any issues, and also don't forget to gravel vac in the next 12 hours, buy 2 bottles tomorrow and dose properly next week, (to let the first dose have a good effect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 watch fish for any issues, and also don't forget to gravel vac in the next 12 hours, buy 2 bottles tomorrow and dose properly next week, (to let the first dose have a good effect) I will do Carine, thank you - you've been most helpful I love the elaborate tank you posted in my other thread - I knew the tanks "back then" would be very fancy :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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