puttputt Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Went to Auckland for the weekend, and had dinner at Euro bar, favorite place of ours even if expensive. They have always had a marine tank dividing the mens and womens toilet, and generally its been ok, not flash, but clean and looked after. Well, this time was a shock. If there is someone looking after the tank they should be shot. It is small, maybe 300l, 1200 long 60 x 60cm maybe. They had 5 large tangs in there, 3 yellow, 1 blue and 1 Naso, all large, a copperband butterfly, a potters angel, 2 clowns, 2 cardinals, and thats just what i could see. The rocks, sand etc were covered in thick red cyno, and the leathers looked sad/unopen. What the hell!! An expensive trendy restaurant owned by that Simon Gault (all over the tv etc with masterchief etc) and they are happy treat such imported marine fish as disposable. I will post this on all sites, hope that the pill that looks after that tank reads this as I'd love to have a discussion with them, and if i can find an e-mail address for the owner I'll send it to him as well. Just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 https://www.facebook.com/OfficialSimonGault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 OMG thats shocking stuff. Post it on his Facebook page for all to see :an!gry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I found an e-mail address for him and have left him a wee note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirio Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Not cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 do it quietly and if it is not rectified then it can be taken further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 It was quiet, didn't make a sound as i was typing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 It was quiet, didn't make a sound as i was typing it. tap. tap tap. tapity tap, tap tap, tap tap tapity tap... :rotf: :digH: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinox Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 :an!gry sucks to see public tanks so not looked after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 how was the food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 how was the food? :rotf: man that knows his priorities.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 well i certainly wouldn't go to an expensive restaurant like that and publicly winge about the state of a fish tank inside it. if it was kelly tarltons or similar i might say something but as their core business is food i was interested in the quality of that not their decor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Dont understand that at all, but each to there own. I saw a marine tank in shocking condition in a restaraunt that we often use , and as a fishkeeper and a paying customer, who cares about the fish, i felt it necessary to do something about it. You frankly, can take a jump, i wonder why i bother with fnzas sometimes with attitudes like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 sorry to offend, didn't intend to. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 the tank was put there by the owners to create a bit of ambience in the restaurant and quite possibly a tropical marine was selected to create the "wow factor" obviously the original posters dining experience was less than expected owing to his understanding of what a marine tank should be sad to see a restaurant and a very public owner that prides himself on the finer details of dining out let this slip maybe he is too busy with other commitments or just doesn't know how a marine tank should be run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 there can be many reasons why a setup like that could not be at it's best i guess. a friendly chat offering great advice with a staff member/manager/maintainer while at the establishment would be a great way to improve the state of it i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 the follow the giant bunny down the hole to wonderland................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 i guess in wonderland people will front up with their concerns & try to give helpful advice rather than hide behind a computer & go onto every forum and website they can find to express their dissatisfaction with an ornament, suggest the person looking after it should be shot and generally act as if they are perfect. I very much doubt they "are happy treat such imported marine fish as disposable", i bet they just need some advice because they obviously have spent time learning how to cook the fish, not keep them alive. one way to deal with it would be to offer to help to improve the situation but that doesn't seem to be an option from someone with the ability which is a shame that knowledge that must have been handed down from others cannot continue to be handed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 No hiding, i was hoping to flush out the people that look after that tank, i have no problems saying exactly the same face to face, just like i would to you. The tank was an absolute mess, not a little off perfect, but an absolute mess. I now know you would have told the young waitress, so thats fine, your call. I have e-mailed the owner expressing my concern, at the same time telling him that we frequent the restaraunt, the food was, as it always is, great, but someone needs to sort the tank out. The staff dont look after the tank, they pay someone too, this tank has been around for years and years and suddenly is way overloaded with fish and in a shocking state. I'm happy with what i have done and posted, but hiding behind a keyboard and looking at my perfect tank - read into it what ever you like. Fish an ornament, says it all really, i thought they were animals, pets, that require looking after - silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Anyway, thats the last post I write on it. I have and will continue to help people starting out in marines, as i have to alot of newbies. In fact been running around today, repairing skimmers, adjusting flow, calming down a newbie when her leather didn't expand, all for the love of it. We agree to disagree and you have obviously formed conclusions about me - so be it, too old to worry about this sort of thing anymore. How the weather down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think you have every right to be upset that the tank and Fish are not in the condition they should be. Clearly they would be better to NOT have a tank if it's not upto the standard it should be, rather than have a tank and it looks like it does. Look forward to hearing about the reply Email if you get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 so again it's a "name and shame" situation by trying to "flush out" the people that look after it? I'm sure if you spoke to the manager they would have easily been able to tell you who does. you have the option of going the nice way about it, this way isn't & it certainly isn't helping the situation as well as you could have if at all. if i was you i would have done what i could to found out who maintains it and offered to help them, whether that be advice or someone nearer to them to physically help. that's a better way is it not? I wouldn't create threads on fishkeeping sites pointing out how much of a "pill" the maintainer is, that doesn't help the inhabitants does it? they still may not have taken your advice, then maybe go on a crusade to run them down as you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have to say I don't see this as hiding behind a keyboard what so ever. And as for flushing out the person responsible for looking after this tank it is a perfectly reasonable use of the forums and internet. No slander against the company or its staff so far Putt is purely trying to find the person responsible in order to guide them and give advice. I see it as a loyal customer trying to help a business they frequent improve an area. Not having a go at you smidey, as I can see your points. All I am saying is I see it in a different light. I myself would have had to do something, as seeing the fish and other life in poor conditions would have broken my heart as it always does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have to say I don't see this as hiding behind a keyboard what so ever. And as for flushing out the person responsible for looking after this tank it is a perfectly reasonable use of the forums and internet. No slander against the company or its staff so far Putt is purely trying to find the person responsible in order to guide them and give advice. I see it as a loyal customer trying to help a business they frequent improve an area. Not having a go at you smidey, as I can see your points. All I am saying is I see it in a different light. I myself would have had to do something, as seeing the fish and other life in poor conditions would have broken my heart as it always does. it's all good discussion and yes we all have our perspectives which make sense to us and i totally agree about doing something about the state of the tank. i just prefer to help and be positive about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think puttputt wasn't trying to be negative about it, I think he was pissed off at the state of the tank. As Smidey would normally talk to someone at the restaurant to try and solve the problem, puttputt has tried to take things to the people higher up, the ones actually in charge. (This should prevent it happening again). He isn't trying to name and shame, he's trying to track down who is actually looking after the tank, as THEY are the ones that need to be sat down and talked to. I agree that fish are more than ornaments. And I find it heart breaking that big fish are put in little tanks. Smidey, In my opinion, talking to the people at the restaurant would only be a short term fix. You let them know that something needs to be done, the waitress may (or may not) pass on the message, but they would pass it on to a manager, who may (or may not) pass it on again. Puttputt is trying to go straight to the person maintaining the tank. Public awareness isn't a bad thing. It's not stopping people going there for the food (yet.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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