Duke Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 My new 4ft tank has been running for 6weeks now and I added a Stark Damsel last week. When should I do my first water change ? I am looking at adding some snails soon (Catseyes from CHCH) and a pair of Clown's Also how do you test Alkalinity ? Thanks for the answers..... My water paramiters are as follow: Temp 25C PH 0 - 0.25 Salinity 1.024 Ammonia 0.1 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 5 Phosphate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Firstly...what is your PH?? Am I reading something wrong here. Dont add anything else until the ammonia and nitrite have been gone for at least 3 days in a row. Ph needs to be around 8.2 Kh between 7 and 12 DKH, (I personally run at 11-12) Kh is the "Alkalinity" which helps to keep your PH stable. Low KH can cause rapid changes in ph shocking inhabitants. Do you know how to adjust these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 You need to get these right before worrying about a water change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 i was lead to believe kH (Carbonate Hardness) and alkalinity (Acid Binding Capacity) were separate things... KH is that portion of the alkalinity whose charge is balanced by divalent cations such as Ca and Mg ... in other words KH is a measure of hardness and has nothing to do with total alkalinity (since charge can be balanced by any number of cations) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I wasnt going in quite that deep, however you are probably right. I use baking soda only to raise my KH. One decent teaspoon will raise KH by approx 2KH per 300 litres. This is sodium Bicarbonate, which relates to the Carbonate hardness I would assume. As far as Ca and Mg, these have to added along side Baking soda of their own accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 For our purposes you can consider them to be the same thing. Total alkalinity includes other buffering salts like borates, as well as the usual carbonate / hydrogen carbonate ions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 You bet me to it L. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeh1 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 What about using that bulls eye (called something like that) is is designed to disolve and keep the ph at exactly 8.2. I am starting my tank and I am thinking of using that product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 never heard of it - but go hard and let us all know how it goes! any links to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted January 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 ph is 8.2 How do you test for alkalinity ? I have had these conditions for about 5days or more, I only put the little fish in the tank once it had cycled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Bullseye might be a phosphate buffer like some of the other buffers for freshwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Ph is good if 8.2. You need to get a KH test kit form your LFS. If low get the KH up with good old baking soda. But you need to get your magnesium correct first. The wrong concentration of Magnesium effects correct KH and Cacium concentrations. So....you need a test for MG A test for KH A test for Calcium. If you dont use these you WILL sruggle to have a decent tank. IF YOU STILL HAVE AMMONIA, YOU TANK HAS NOT CYCLED. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Your Damsel and Catseyes should be fine to have in there now, But dont add anything else until you have it completely right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 You can assist with helping the Cycling process by adding "Cycle" a bacteria product from your LFS. Some people hate it , some like I have used it and I reckon it helps the system to multiply bacteria fasting than by naturally using it. Others may warn you off it, but either way it will do NO damage to your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 are you sure you want to keep the damsel. from what ive heard they are a pain in the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnB Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 You can assist with helping the Cycling process by adding "Cycle" a bacteria product from your LFS. there has been a lot of doubt cast on the ability of a bacteria to live at shipment and shop conditions and still be alive.... is it keept in a fridge.. if not it does not appear it will contain live anything. except maybe snake oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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