myfishybuisness Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 nar that sounds like a good balance, but if you have 10 cherry barbs why not just get 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I still wanna get as much colour as I can into the tank since I'm only allowed the one downstairs :lol: I'll probably end up with a school of cardinals instead of the neons, that way I have blue and red, how many could I have without overstocking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Depends. You could always go over the top but I've seen a few tanks that are totally overstocked and the fish tend to suffer. End up smaller etc from being stunted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxjxa Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I still wanna get as much colour as I can into the tank since I'm only allowed the one downstairs :lol: I'll probably end up with a school of cardinals instead of the neons, that way I have blue and red, how many could I have without overstocking? Start with 15 and see how it looks? I can never judge how heavily stocked a tank is/will be until I actually see the fish swimming around and how much space they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 IMO loose the neons and the bolivians and add all those fish, including ALL the cichlids you mentioned, 160l will be sweet, just make sure you have plenty of water changes and maybe add some livebearers as dither fish, pack it full of plants and make some hidy holes useing river rocks etc Also it would be better to add all the cichlids at once, not one by one, otherwise you will have some establishing there own space which could cause some agression towards newer fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Id prolly go 4 ram 4 apistos 6 corys and a bunch of livebearers Overstocking can be done very easily and safely as long as your filtration is very good and you regulate your water changes to frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Remember also that these a DWARF cichlids, they do not grow very big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I have livebearers in all my other tanks so wanting to go for something a bit different Good point about adding the cichlids! Wish List is now looking like this: 3 Blue Rams 3 Golden Rams 10 Cherry Barbs 20 Cardinal Tetra 2 L140 6 Sterbai Cories Still awhile off stocking yet so getting very impatient, but I want to have it planted first and do everything right :nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 mmmmmm just watch those cherrys! there usually well behaved in a school but barbs are biters! With the rams try get pairs, ive often seen odd numbers of rams like 3 and the odd one out get really picked on. I only mentioned livebearers as they will supply your cichlids with livefood as well as being very active dither fish. I wouldnt have barbs and tetras together, but thats just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I'll stick to 2 of each ram then. Hopefully the barbs will be okay, if not they can go in another tank got plenty of pregnant guppies so they'll be good for live food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 The last few bits for the tank arrived from Hollywoods today, forgot to get some air hose and a check valve though so my bubble wall will have to wait till tomorrow :smln: Sacraficial guppies are in the tank to start cycling. No-ones dead yet so all is going well :happy2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrowssj Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 needs pics :smln: I think apistos over rams anyday much nicer fish an not to aggressive from what ive seen. If I didn't have Pelvicachromis taeniatus I would totally want them! I also like rainbow fish an cherry barbs. Neons are cool but from my friends past experiences they tend to not be as hardy as one would hope &c:ry definitely plant the tank out an get it real green, with some bottom dwellers an some top dwellers would be amazing .Be warned once you find your absolute favorite fish you will just want to breed them an you will probably end up selling off the others to do so... well at least thats what happened to me haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 needs pics :smln: I think apistos over rams anyday much nicer fish an not to aggressive from what ive seen. If I didn't have Pelvicachromis taeniatus I would totally want them! I also like rainbow fish an cherry barbs. Neons are cool but from my friends past experiences they tend to not be as hardy as one would hope &c:ry definitely plant the tank out an get it real green, with some bottom dwellers an some top dwellers would be amazing .Be warned once you find your absolute favorite fish you will just want to breed them an you will probably end up selling off the others to do so... well at least thats what happened to me haha I've already fallen in love with the blue ram so I just have to have them :lol: Still thinking about the neons, I'm gonna add the other fish first and see how it looks (I'm keen on congo tetras too). I want a really green jungle, just need the money :happy2: I've already got some albino guppies upstairs that I'm trying to breed but I'm already getting bored with them, I want cichlids! :love: Pics tomorrow, I promise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I've already fallen in love with the blue ram so I just have to have them :lol: Still thinking about the neons, I'm gonna add the other fish first and see how it looks (I'm keen on congo tetras too). I want a really green jungle, just need the money :happy2: I've already got some albino guppies upstairs that I'm trying to breed but I'm already getting bored with them, I want cichlids! :love: Pics tomorrow, I promise! I've had both a pair of blue rams and a pair of apistos in the same tank and they hate each other. At the moment I'd rather have rams anyday. Doesn't mean I'll be getting rid of ALL my apistos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I'm getting the rams first, and if when I get the others they dont get along, I guess I'll just have to buy yet another tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrowssj Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 where are those pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Here we go, here's the progression over the last few days. Joshlikesfish is dropping off some plants later so will update when they're in :thup: Bubble wall looks way better in person, and eventually plants will cover all the pipes, heater etc. I ran out of air hose which is why it runs diagonally :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 You might find your plants will grow marginally better without a bubble wall. Those 980s have great little lights for most undemanding plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 If anyone has some plants to donate it would be much appreciated! :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Have a look at Twisted Val and see if you like it.. If you do you can have heaps from me (mine's going nuts and taking over the tank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Have a look at Twisted Val and see if you like it.. If you do you can have heaps from me (mine's going nuts and taking over the tank) That would be great! I've been really keen to get some :happy2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Cool, I need to do some serious twisted val reduction in my tank anyway or I will go on 7 week holiday and when I come back all the fish would be suspended in green spaghetti! :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrowssj Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 looking very cool! :happy2: be sure to dose with excel when you get some plants makes them go booooom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Josh just dropped some plants over from him and obstacle. You guys ROCK! Here's the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrowssj Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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