Mikey Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Morning all, Just a query... are the natives that are for sale at fish stores captive bred or wild caught? Reason I ask is if they are captive bred, I'd rather purchase them if they are captive bred than take them from wild populations. I will be going into HFF today at lunch, and I'll ask them as well. Just thought someone on here might know. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Captive bred. Licenced breeder and seller. It is illegal to take from the wild and sell, although I am not sure about breeding from wild parents and selling the young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 MTI overcame some pretty big obstacles; legally and ethically. Good on them! They breed them, and sell them to the stores that sell them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 So I went into HFF today and had a chat about the natives... The way I understand it from my discussion with the staff member is (although maybe I misunderstood something): Most of them are captive bred, and the MTI has a licence which apparently allows them to capture and sell wild ones as well. In the stock that was available at HFF there was a wild caught redfin bully and a bunch of Inanga and Kokopu. The HFF staff member has directed me to MTI website for some more information. So I will go onto that and have a look. Looking at P44s post it seems I may have stumbled onto something interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 If anyone is interested I saw some fat bullies, some inanga and koura at World of Water in Hamiltron today. From what I'd seen about bullies in here I expected them to be timid but the ones in the outside tank followed my finger along the glass with their chubby cheeks. :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Sophia, although I have kept various rare natives, I keep coming back to the bullies as the best native aquarium fish ever - easy care, easy to find, easy to adjust and SUPER curious and always up to something :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I like their chubby cheeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunger_4_more Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 i agree with sophie on the commons,cool fish but boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Sophia, although I have kept various rare natives, I keep coming back to the bullies as the best native aquarium fish ever - easy care, easy to find, easy to adjust and SUPER curious and always up to something :love: How about for pond fish? Was talking to my father in law yesterday and he's wanting to put some natives in his pond. I'm not really sure which would be good or where to get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Depending how big the pond is, I would suggest Banded Kokopu... They get to a good size, they are a cool looking fish and they will often chill out in one spot, so you will actually be able to view them better than things like inanga/bullies etc. This is just my opinion, maybe Stella or another native expert would have another option? I'm learning quickly... but still learning nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Depending how big the pond is, I would suggest Banded Kokopu... They get to a good size, they are a cool looking fish and they will often chill out in one spot, so you will actually be able to view them better than things like inanga/bullies etc. This is just my opinion, maybe Stella or another native expert would have another option? I'm learning quickly... but still learning nonetheless By my approximate measurements it will be about 68,000 liters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 By my approximate measurements it will be about 68,000 liters. in that case you need a water snake viewtopic.php?f=41&t=50425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 It already has water snakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hmmmm, so what do you give to the pond who has everything? This guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Pity Twiggy isn't a NZ Native. 68000L is a decent sized pond Wouldn't mind that in my back yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunger_4_more Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 yes i agree,the bullies/eels are the easiest so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Bit of an old(5month) thread to be re opening isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 When people are new to a site they don't always think to look at the date of previous posts. His comment is no less valid now than it would have been then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Giant bully or black flounder are cool to keep and get to a decent size but you probably never see them in your pond due to their benthic and sedentary habits so probably better in a big tank. most people think they are better in brackish water but they have been found quite far inland so can live in completely fresh water . I had estuarine stargazer once was pretty cool looking fish but didn't do much just sat around doing nothing only ate live food so I let it go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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