Ram Growths

[oscnz]

Here is some info on the ram sickness that has been plauging so many of us with white growths on our rams

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/man ... ystis.html

[oscnz]

Sorry http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/man ... ystis.html

[phoenix44]

Yeah, that is rumoured to be it.

I've been keeping it hush-hush for fear of mass hysteria :nilly: :lol: so thanks for that :lol:

[oscnz]

Oh great now im the patsy

But yea its also been roumerwd that Seachem do a medication that kills or lessens the virus

[ryanjury]

It doesn't sound like what my rams got the pics certainly don't match either but could be something similar, I thought it might have been a spiral nucleus type thing that affected them. Either way there does seem to be good and bad batches that come in from time to time.

Are seachem doing anti-viral drugs?

[oscnz]

Yip according to the website

http://www.seachem.com/Products/Medications.html

Its sounds exactly what my rams have now and what others have died from

[Adrienne]

Not what my gold rams died from

[alanmin4304]

Since it is proposed in the draft import health standard for ornamental fish that any fish showing signs of septicaemia or sudden deaths has to be tested for iridoviruses hopefully this problem will go away by being picked up in quarantine. This of course will not pick up the problem in locally bred fish.

[alanmin4304]

Iridoviruses are relatively common in many types of imported fish and it usually presents as ulcers. A causative factor may well be the stress that comes with the shipping from overseas and the quarantine process. It is like a lot of fish diseases and may not be seen until the fish is put under stress.

[oscnz]

Its just strange becouse none of my fish are under stress

[phoenix44]

It will manifest itself after a period of time.

Stress is just one of several inducing factors.

I have a LF ram from the first import batch and that was yonks ago. That male ram is now in stage 1 of the disease. In 4 weeks he'll be dead.

[oscnz]

Yea i think my boy is on the way out too hes got over it once before but it has come back

[the-obstacle]

Does this explain the good deals currently going on electric blues at various stores?

[alanmin4304]

There can be a number of signs and triggers. The trigger for testing for iridovirus during quarantine is septicaemia or deaths. There is good reason why some importers stay away from importing certain fish and Rams are one of these (particularly the golden rams) That is why they are not always around even though approved for import. If signs are present the fish can be dead in 5 days.

If you have a look in the other post to the link to the draft import health standard for ornamental fish the high risk fish will show you the potential diseases that put these species into high risk. Many are common fish and some are at risk from a number of diseases.

These will therefore be fish that will be more difficult to get added to the approved list and also more difficult to get an importer to bring in if approved.

It is generally regarded that there is no cure for diseases caused by viruses. There will be some that claim they know a way to "hold it off"

[phoenix44]

Does this explain the good deals currently going on electric blues at various stores?

Not at all. Those are mainly NZ bred.

It's only the longfin blue rams that have this prob.

That's half a dozen for me, and a nationwide problem for some shops.

[oscnz]

Yea its just my male veailtail thats effected not my GBR or EBR

[the-obstacle]

Not at all. Those are mainly NZ bred.

It's only the longfin blue rams that have this prob.

That's half a dozen for me, and a nationwide problem for some shops.

Sweet. I'm considering a pair or two for the big tank...