oscnz Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Here is some info on the ram sickness that has been plauging so many of us with white growths on our rams http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/man ... ystis.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Sorry http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/man ... ystis.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Yeah, that is rumoured to be it. I've been keeping it hush-hush for fear of mass hysteria :nilly: :lol: so thanks for that :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Oh great now im the patsy But yea its also been roumerwd that Seachem do a medication that kills or lessens the virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 It doesn't sound like what my rams got the pics certainly don't match either but could be something similar, I thought it might have been a spiral nucleus type thing that affected them. Either way there does seem to be good and bad batches that come in from time to time. Are seachem doing anti-viral drugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Yip according to the website http://www.seachem.com/Products/Medications.html Its sounds exactly what my rams have now and what others have died from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Not what my gold rams died from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Since it is proposed in the draft import health standard for ornamental fish that any fish showing signs of septicaemia or sudden deaths has to be tested for iridoviruses hopefully this problem will go away by being picked up in quarantine. This of course will not pick up the problem in locally bred fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Iridoviruses are relatively common in many types of imported fish and it usually presents as ulcers. A causative factor may well be the stress that comes with the shipping from overseas and the quarantine process. It is like a lot of fish diseases and may not be seen until the fish is put under stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Its just strange becouse none of my fish are under stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 It will manifest itself after a period of time. Stress is just one of several inducing factors. I have a LF ram from the first import batch and that was yonks ago. That male ram is now in stage 1 of the disease. In 4 weeks he'll be dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yea i think my boy is on the way out too hes got over it once before but it has come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Does this explain the good deals currently going on electric blues at various stores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 There can be a number of signs and triggers. The trigger for testing for iridovirus during quarantine is septicaemia or deaths. There is good reason why some importers stay away from importing certain fish and Rams are one of these (particularly the golden rams) That is why they are not always around even though approved for import. If signs are present the fish can be dead in 5 days. If you have a look in the other post to the link to the draft import health standard for ornamental fish the high risk fish will show you the potential diseases that put these species into high risk. Many are common fish and some are at risk from a number of diseases. These will therefore be fish that will be more difficult to get added to the approved list and also more difficult to get an importer to bring in if approved. It is generally regarded that there is no cure for diseases caused by viruses. There will be some that claim they know a way to "hold it off" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Does this explain the good deals currently going on electric blues at various stores? Not at all. Those are mainly NZ bred. It's only the longfin blue rams that have this prob. That's half a dozen for me, and a nationwide problem for some shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscnz Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yea its just my male veailtail thats effected not my GBR or EBR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Not at all. Those are mainly NZ bred. It's only the longfin blue rams that have this prob. That's half a dozen for me, and a nationwide problem for some shops. Sweet. I'm considering a pair or two for the big tank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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