Fee Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 I Recently purchased 6 Apistos for myself. They were sold as Blue Faced Agassiz's Dwarf Cichlids. But I am fairly confident that they are not Apistogramma cacatuoides. I've looked around the internet & the closest things I can find are maybe Apistogramma borelii or Apistogramma trifasciata- maybe... I phoned the importer and they are not sure either. Has anyone else seen them around or maybe purchased some and been able to make a positive ID? Mine are predominantly blue with blue facial striations on a greyish background. At present the don't seem to have developed any dorsal extensions but I may have to study them more closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Fee said... > They were sold as Blue Faced Agassiz's Dwarf Cichlids. > But I am fairly confident that they are not Apistogramma > cacatuoides. You've looked at the pictures at: http://www.apistogramma.com/gallery.htm I've not seen the recent import but a couple of species have been available over the years. None have lasted very long although A. cacatuoides was bred several times. Breed 'em if you can and spread 'em around. Pencil me in for some ;-) Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fee Posted August 6, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 That's one of the pages I looked at on my search.. I'd like to breed them, but we'll have to wait and see once they have settled a bit more. They are really pretty and I hope they show up on a list again as I would buy more!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 I have seen these here in Napier as well, a beautiful fish, they are not Cacatuoides, my initial thought was Agassizii, which it well may be or looking through my dwarf cichlid book it could be what they call "As Yet Undescribed" Leads me onto an interesting question though "How did it get past MAF if the importer cant tell you what it is???" What did he tell MAF it was?? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minchton Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 Hello fee Dont know if this is of any help but I saw some fish such as you describe in the Goldfish Bowl in Hamilton. They were referred to as something blue faced and had been bred by a Hamilton member. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 I would say that they are not A.agassizi - ignoring colour differences the fins are the wrong shape - Agassizi has a spade shaped tail, these blue faces have a rounded tail. As for how they get past MAF - as all Apistogramma species are allowed they may not have given a species name or just called them A. agassizi (who at MAF would be any the wiser?) I'm not aware of any Waikato member having bred the blue faces - but then I'm not the breeding coordinator so it may have slipped past me, and not all fish keepers in Hamilton are club members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minchton Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 hi Rob :oops: Now I am embarrassed. I understood the member concerned was Damon Flett, but I did talk a lot of fish at the time and may have got mixed up with dwarf rams. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Mitch said... > I understood the member concerned was Damon Flett... According to the Breeding Scheme Register, Damon has bred Apistogramma juruensis which *may* look something like this: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... ffjuru.jpg Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fee Posted August 9, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Bought a new book today "The most complete coloured lexicon of Cichlids" Having flicked quickly through it (I think it would take a few years to read thouroghly) The closest resembalence I can find is Apistogramma moae, however the fish in the book isn't so brightly coloured. I've done a search through probably every website mentioning the word Apistogramma and there are barely any pics of this moae, and those that there are are usually in funny lighting or dead which don't help me much!! Thank you all for your imput, I'll keep my eyes and ears open. At the end of the day they are still a lovely little fish and I guess that's what really matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Do you have a photo for us to look at? If you can email me one I'd be glad to put it on the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 Sounds like you've got an Appistogramma Stuftifino. Very common species name, just about every genus has many Stuftifinos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 I had a couple of blue faced agassiz's from jensens a couple of years back, they are real characters. You should have a look at www.thekrib.com i searhed for ages and i am sure i have seen them there. Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fee Posted September 18, 2002 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 I've had a good search on there, but you can't be sure you haven't missed something, it's such a big site. They are still doing well- I lost two early on, but the four that are left seem pretty happy and are growing well and bossing the discus around. They have staked out a few territories and yesterday three of them were doing some pretty impressive shaking & wagging- total colour change, they seem to have 3 colour moods; dark grey, sparkley blue and at their crazy moments a creamy yellow with a bit of blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 I couldnt find them there either, i know i've seen them somewhere befor doooooh try here www.apistogramma.com/forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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