mcrudd Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I am so sad everyone, I found my bristlenose male dead (The one who was recently a daddy) moments ago. I had a look at his body before burying him under the peach tree and he was fine in every way, no blotiness or scars or anything. My water parameters check out ok. My ph is 7.2, my nitrate, amonia and nitrite all 0. Why did he die, he was so young, only 8cm. I got him in September at 3cm long. I monitored my tank for a while and checked on my other male and female as well as some of the babies I still have and they all are active and fine, no idea why he died, any ideas from you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 not sure why he died but this is part of keeping fish, loosing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos & Siran Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 sometimes animals, like humans, just die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not really, it is just they die and we do not know the cause without an autopsy and microscopic examination. There is always a reason for a fish death but, unless it is obvious, we do not know the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 and checked on my other male and female as well as some of the babies Did you check for shot gun wounds.? Sounds like there may have been some fighting in there. Was he the father of babies> I'm guessing not.At 3cm he was a non threatening juvie but at 8cm he was competition. ###EDIT- just read your post properly and see he was DAD### So then nxt question-how big is other male? Checking along the side of the body for any marks of apparent runbbing is where I'd be looking first. The males will predominantly fight using the spikey odontodes at the end of the pectoral fin and will inflict damage making a wound from one little spike hole that you can't even see to ripping open the entire side of a body. How many caves in the tank? What you need is more females than males otherwise this will happen. Also more than one female is a good idea to stop him from concentrating all his hormones just on her. I have a few spare females 8-10cm you can have if you can get to Pakuranga and pick her up sometime. PM if interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Simdey, I guess its the hardest part of doing fish keeping. We get to attached, they are no longer a fish pet but an aqua child, and the loss is very hurtful Carlos & Siran, I just feel so hurt that he was so young and taken away, I mean these little guys can get up to ten years old. I agree Caryl. Sometimes I wish I was a vet of some sorts so that I could figure it out, but unfortuanatly I am not and its pricy to have it done. So guess I will just have to accept it, but a person can not help but question yourself the whole time. Ferenzenz I checked with the help of my hubby for any type of scarring, holes, illnesses and we could not find anything, he did not have internal bleeding cause his tummy was the same colour as usual, to tell you the truth he just looked as if he were sleeping except for the little spikes at his eyes that were enlarged and bigger than usual as per bristlenoses that die. What really suprises me is his colour was super fantastic. He usually look a bit blotchy but he was perfectly dark brown with the little white spots and the trimmings of his tails were gorgeous. That still confuses me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedfrog Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I too find it really hard when the fish die . I really want to know why so that I can avoid it happening again. I am finding that I just have to toughen up and accept that if I want to keep fish then there will be deaths that I can't explain or illness I cant help. It's a hard thing for us animal lovers. As Caryl said I don't think there is sufficent knowledge out there in regard to fish health. If our other animals had the same mortality rate as fish often do we would not accept it as normal. I guess it's thru forums like this more experienced fish keepers can share their knowledge and we can explore new thoughts on fish care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Could be stroke, heart attack, brain tumor, congenital heart arythmia, pulmonary embolism, aneurysm...Or maybe just couldn't take it anymore and drowned himself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks oneeyedfrog. Guys I found out the reason why he died, and I feel very guilty He died of a broken heart, I just spoke to the friend whom I gave his female mate too, and she said that the female died two days ago, she also could not see anything wrong and said that the female just appeared to be sleeping. She said that the two babies I gave with the female are doing great and is very active. So I think I should rather have kept them together instead of worrying how I would house babies if they were to spawn again Well atleast I know, to never split up a breeding couple ever, it seems our fish fall in love just like we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks oneeyedfrog. Guys I found out the reason why he died, and I feel very guilty He died of a broken heart, I just spoke to the friend whom I gave his female mate too, and she said that the female died two days ago, she also could not see anything wrong and said that the female just appeared to be sleeping. She said that the two babies I gave with the female are doing great and is very active. So I think I should rather have kept them together instead of worrying how I would house babies if they were to spawn again Well atleast I know, to never split up a breeding couple ever, it seems our fish fall in love just like we do. Hahaha, I don't think you'll get away with putting that on a death certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy_49nz Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 If our other animals had the same mortality rate as fish often do we would not accept it as normal. At least fish don't tend to fetch a stick for you so you don't really get as attached. Its still a bugger, but I can accept it a lot easier than when my dogs die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyruby Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I agree with many of these posts, it is hard to accept sometimes, but no one really ever knows why some of their fish die... I have hundreds of fish and have had a few mortalities for various reasons but when you're in the fish business you need to learn to accept it, as it will happen more often then you wish. As Skippy_49nz said it's hard when your dog or cat or dies then it is a fish.....(experience talks)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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