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Are these blue rams? gender?


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I have two fish that were sold to me as Blue Rams. Do you think they are blue rams? Also what gender?

Fish One: This one seems to resemble a female blue ram (pink bellie) but the dorsal fin is pointed at the end instead of rounded...?

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Fish Two: This one has a lot less black on it... and it has the pointed dosal fin (indicative of a male right?) Wondering if it might be a golden ram x blue ram?

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I say number one is a female as it has blue speckles in it's black dot and a more rounded anal fin also she has a pink belly and it may just be the pic but it seems to have the little stick thing that she lays her eggs out which is wider than what the males is.

Pic 2 I would say it's a male as it has a a smaller little pimple thing which he uses to fertilise the eggs and it isn't as wide as the females but without his black dot showing and his dorsal fin up t's hard to tell.

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the second one is from the most recent wholesale batch from 1 supplier.

I bought them both about a year ago from the same tank. I'm pretty sure they are both males. Haven't had any spawnings and my sister had some and they went nuts in our rain water. I copied her conditions and everything to the T but no luck. Also the finnage really leads me to believe they're both males.

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number ones a female. I'm 99% sure. What else is in the tank? To get them to breed all you need to do is feed lots of blo0d worms and flake for 7 days. Then do a 20 - 25% cool water change and in a few days the should breed.

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