sneaky2 Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I think it was about $8000 to apply to become containment facility i.e D.S.I.R (NOT A ZOO) n then animals can only be moved from cf to cf with written permission...bla bla bla Sounds a lot easier to just move country. And yet the powers that be have alowed the D.S.I.R to import CANE TOADS and AFRICAN CLAWED FROGS in the past for research, :evil: :roll:I wonder if they had to do an environmental impact report for that? :-? I presume universitys must be containment facility as well as they turned up there for dissection apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 they breed african clawed toads at napier Aquarium,have done for years,I know they have sent them up to akld uni but don`t kmow if they were alive or dead on departure?Thet have strict controls/records on the actual numbers they are holding at any one time and have to freeze any dead ones etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky2 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yea been at auckland zoo for years to,good to hear they are so controled.must be, i havent been offered any yet :lol: nor cane toads :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 e.g. Bluies in Auckland On that note, are they running around Auckland or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 yea hans 15 in a team gotten so bad they call them the auckland blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExotherMan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 yea hans 15 in a team gotten so bad they call them the auckland blues :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExotherMan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 they breed african clawed toads at napier Aquarium,have done for years,I know they have sent them up to akld uni but don`t kmow if they were alive or dead on departure?... They mostly only get females, harvest the eggs from them each year for embryonic research and then they eventually get euthanized. They are kept within a containment facility. I don't believe there are any left currently at the uni but i have heard that auckland zoo had some reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I think it was about $8000 to apply to become containment facility i.e D.S.I.R (NOT A ZOO) n then animals can only be moved from cf to cf with written permission...bla bla bla Sounds a lot easier to just move country. And yet the powers that be have alowed the D.S.I.R to import CANE TOADS and AFRICAN CLAWED FROGS in the past for research, :evil: :roll:I wonder if they had to do an environmental impact report for that? :-? I presume universitys must be containment facility as well as they turned up there for dissection apparently. It is $2000 to get the licence, then you have to update it every year and pay maf to come out a certain number of times a to check it still is maintained to standard at a hourly rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yes charlie and they have to inspect fences you have to have prior permision to relocate animals anywhere have approved vet facilities be in a breeding program or serender all eggs/offspring and so on and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 it all depends on what you want the facility for? each has its own standard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 and accreditation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 if you wanted it for reptiles there are 6 that have a IHS created for them??? no point really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 so are you setting up to import then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky2 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 :lol: :lol: n round n round she goes :roll: seems its human nature to want what you cant have,a lot of hobbyist overseas would give there left nut for some of our natives!...no greek,hermans or box torts in private hands in australia(legaly ones anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 so are you setting up to import then? what would be the point? you cant release them to public... id just have a really expensive import room... But i would be then allowed a crocodile... but not really worth it? id rather spend the money on what you can have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 So back to the point are you spending money on what you can have or what you are allowed....there is a BIG difference here. Which means to say you can have Leopards ...but they have no status You can have iggies....but ditto You can have torts ....oh hang on thats the same some some speices You are allowed natives...and they shouldnt cost you much at all Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 i dont like the natives due to the paper work on having to get them, i may get some one day but at the moment i simply cant be bothad with all the drama. I am getting the Leos because i like the colouring of them. Lots of reptiles dont have status in NZ like the bearded dragons, but they are most common? Torts are reconised by MAF its just finding a breeder with stock to sell is the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky2 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 i dont like the natives due to the paper work on having to get them, i may get some one day but at the moment i simply cant be bothad with all the drama. I am getting the Leos because i like the colouring of them. Lots of reptiles dont have status in NZ like the bearded dragons, but they are most common? Torts are reconised by MAF its just finding a breeder with stock to sell is the issue. I have found its more like finding a breeder(torts n boxies) who trusts you enough to sell or swap you some.....native paperwork is realy easy,once again finding a breeder who trusts you enough is the thing.....So are you building trust? or building walls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 THANKS TO DAVID ON THIS FORUM FOR MAKING THIS INFO AVAILABLE Maf's logic is flawed and the Minister is acting on bad advice, but nevertheless there it is in writing...PM David R for a copy. If this is in regards to the list I asked David Carter for, I haven't actually seen a copy of it yet! Someone else has taken over from where I left off by asking for a copy under the OIA, which I hadn't thought of doing, as the email I got from him said they were compiling a list but weren't going to release it for ages until it was complete. If someone could send me a copy that'd be great.. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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