Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 What would be the best cichlid that gaurds it's babys? I've got kribs and they're really easy but I want to set up BB tank with plenty or rocks and rock caves. I'm thinking about dwarf flags and keyholes at this stage. I want things that are either cave spawners or ones that lay and gaurd their eggs on rocks. I've bred krbs and rams but want a tank that houses few pairs of smallish cichlids or dwarf cichlids that I can watch raise their babies (I'm currently watching my kribs move a group of babies around that have only just become free swimming :bounce: ). If anyone has ideas on what I could have please let me know as I'm keen for some more ideas of some colourful fish. Thanks Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Sajicas are great parents in that regard. don't get that big, relative of convicts but far more colourful. Apistos- and blue rams are nice but little harder perhaps to get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yeah I've tried dwarf cockatoos but couldn't keep the fry alive so gave up :-? :oops: . Don't really like the look of sajicas but they could be something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 red jewels and kribs are good,im just trying to get my pair of red jewels to breed but the tank too crowded so have to sell some off lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I've got kribs and am just waitong for our lfs to get a albino female in then I'll get a pair of albino kribs. What about severums? How big do they get? Are they easy to bred and are the aggro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 oh and convicts...i havent bred them but heard they are good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yeah I was thinking convicts but I thought they'd be a bit hard to get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 salvinis awesome colours on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 yes and no sometimes they fly out other times they wont budge,pet shop will sometimes buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The lfs usually takes most fish but there not that keen on convicts. I've seen salvani but they get quite large don't they? I'd rather have a pair or 2 of keyholes maybe a pair of severums and something else like dwarf flags. Just something semi easy to breed and raises their own babies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Severums will get larger than the salvini although probably wont threaten the other tankmates as much. Jewels would hammer dwarf flags I would have thought. How big is the tank? Too small and it's going to be war zone. How about blue Acara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The tanks 80 x 40 x 40 and will have heaps of rocks to block the veiw of other fish plus heaps of caves. How big do severums get? I did a quick search and they size seems to range from 12 - 20cms but I don't know which to beleive. What would you recomend putting in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 yup the jewels will hammer most fish lol,the only thing i have in mine is a bristlenose lol electric yellows are pretty cool and the dolphins are fun to breed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1y2k Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Check out Fairy cichlids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I would have stuck with the apistos it can take a while to figure it all out but once you have figured it out they do well for you and look so awesome.. Failing that you could try some daffidol brichardi or standard brichardi, blue acaras, firemouths maybe even a trio of peacocks or something like that if the africans are what floats your boat.. If you liked kribs and wanted some of these http://www.dwarfcichlid.com/Pelvicachro ... niatus.php they are absolutely stunning, before I cooked my tank full of them they were my favorite fish. Amazing colours even at 2-3cm long.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy_49nz Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Jewels seem to breed like flies. I currently have 2 males together in a tank and a female with one female offspring. Both males have bred together, despite me putting them in a single sex tank and now the mother has fertilized the baby females eggs. No wonder Florida doesn't want these things in the Everglades. There is no stopping these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Are you sure you are determining the sex correctly? To the best of my knowledge gay fish don't produce offspring without adoption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Are you sure you are determining the sex correctly? To the best of my knowledge gay fish don't produce offspring without adoption. omg so funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy_49nz Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Well both males are together. Both have fertilized eggs in the past with other females, hence the reason I put them together. The big fish is the mother of the small fish and the small one was the one laying the eggs and the mother fertilizing them. People have tried to tell me that I'm wrong and I must have made a mistake but there is no possible way that could have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 males do not have ovaries. only females do - that's what makes females females. females do not produce sperm. males have testes or similar and thus produce sperm. if you have eggs - you have a female. if you have eggs and babies from those eggs (viable eggs) - a male has fertilised the eggs. There are no 2 ways about it. Especially since these fish are not hermaphrodites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy_49nz Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 They picked the eggs up today so may be spittilg out babies in a couple of days. I hope not... There were probably 12 eggs within the batch which were unfertile and white. The rest looked good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Well both males are together. Both have fertilized eggs in the past with other females, hence the reason I put them together. The big fish is the mother of the small fish and the small one was the one laying the eggs and the mother fertilizing them. People have tried to tell me that I'm wrong and I must have made a mistake but there is no possible way that could have happened. Can I get your mother's phone number? We need to have a chat about how badly she muddled up giving you the birds and the bees talk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm still liking Keyholes and Dwarf Flags but I also like the Sajicas more than I first did but I don't think our lfs will have them and I don't want to get them shipped. I also really like Severums and Salvanis but they'd get too big for the tank and would probably kill off the other fish once they pair up wouldn't they? Anyone have any more ideas? Thanks for all the ideas so far guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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