Duncan7 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Fed the Dats and they were feeling quite photogenic so i snapped a few impromptu pics Now please excuse the grubby glass and the poor quality photos! My biggest Smaller one showing his bars Two smaller ones together Trio plus ornate Trio again Once again with ornate Curious ornate on his own People talk of stable colours, with defined bars, now mine dont usually have this colouration and they have only really lived on their own with the two ornates for the last couple of years, so i assume they are not short of space or unhappy. The only time i really see the distinct bars is after a water change, tank remodel, or when they get a bit stroppy with eachother, Thus i think the stable bars is actually a sign of agression/teritorial challenge/Stay away from me etc? The dark brown (all over) colouration seems to be when they dont feel threatened or when they feel most comfortable. Just my 2c. Dunno what others have experienced. Would be interested to hear your thoughts? I may be completely wrong. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I love the "trio with ornate". Looks so much like the talking goldfish in Monty Python's Meaning of Life! :lol: Interesting about the colouration. Sounds likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Haha thats funny, my tiger's stripes go mottled/unstripey whenever he is acting aggressive, opposite to yours, but my other tiger remains stable the whole time, weird aye? Nice tigers btw , the pipes look too small for them to fit in :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Haha thats funny, my tiger's stripes go mottled/unstripey whenever he is acting aggressive, opposite to yours, but my other tiger remains stable the whole time, weird aye? Nice tigers btw , the pipes look too small for them to fit in :lol: Yeah im not sure anymore about the colours, maybe they are always pissed at eachother?? Fighting for a bit of dominance... The smaller dats can just fit in the pipes, get in there if the big ones being a bully, bichirs like them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 im hoping that when i get my AT or 2 that the agression is more spread out and chillaxes abit more, may not work though as he is one mother of a harraser , honestly he doesn't slow up, and the one that is subject to it all is so calm? eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Mine arent too bad most of the time, few squabbles occasionally, nothing serious, i still think i would be better with another two.. To make a group of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Im liking the thought process here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Im liking the thought process here... You wouldnt believe that i too had been thinking a group of dels for the last couple of weeks and and thought recently about adding some small tigers (possibly AT) and growing them out together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Wow were like brothers :-? :lol: yep, wanting those american dats now, definitely getting at least one after exams, English and geo were @#$# today! I spent 5 hours in the auditorium = Not cool :evil: , need some fish to watch, heal my eyes, I'm seeing julius caesar everywhere... aaaarggghh! :lol: Wanting to start a bichir pile effect with dels and couple of the smaller ones eg: senegals, I got the 2 albinos but still need a regular - where have these guys gone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Haha kindrid fish brothers... Go the AT's they are cool. Like the sound of a bichir pile! How many dels have you got now? You won that one from that auction with the ornate and then got another two larger ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 yeah, have 3 atm, I want to sell the biggest one and get two smaller ones and grow them with the other 2 in a separate tank, while continually adding bichirs - aiming for about 7-8 mayb's. in the larger tank I want to do a group of dats, 3 indo 2 AT, then after the coffers fill up a bit I will upgrade the tank size, chuck em all in and buy an asian aro or a jardini - hoping they get imported Thats the general plan, with a few extra 'interesting fish should i chance upon it' :roll: My interest in ornates has dwindled a bit while my interest in sengals and dels has been boosted, I prefer the look of the smaller ones, only plus to the ornates is the size of course . But first job is to get an AT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 yeah, have 3 atm, I want to sell the biggest one and get two smaller ones and grow them with the other 2 in a separate tank, while continually adding bichirs - aiming for about 7-8 mayb's. in the larger tank I want to do a group of dats, 3 indo 2 AT, then after the coffers fill up a bit I will upgrade the tank size, chuck em all in and buy an asian aro or a jardini - hoping they get imported Thats the general plan, with a few extra 'interesting fish should i chance upon it' :roll: My interest in ornates has dwindled a bit while my interest in sengals and dels has been boosted, I prefer the look of the smaller ones, only plus to the ornates is the size of course . But first job is to get an AT Do it! Very similar to what i hope to achieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Nice pics. I took some last nice as my Ornate and Indo where also being sociable in their new 430L tank My Indo is super stable now, hes awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Nice man, awesome markings on both the dats and the ornate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 What you need is some nice Dither fish , silver dollars for example :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 What you need is some nice Dither fish , silver dollars for example :roll: I have angels (for the missus) and bala sharks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Angels... poo! (not my faves), buy snookies silver $s, that way he can buy my nandus :lol: - still interested snookie? I like the indo, he has the same pattern as one of mine on one side but lacks the merged stripe that mine has on the other side 8) Love the albinos eyes, whereas the normals have distinguished pupils etc the albinos have really weird reflective eyes ! - same with the dats, big eyes . Im hopefully picking up the AT in albany next week, wondering if he will stick up to my bigger dats, my bigger ones are probably 2-3 times his size, should be ok though right? How big is yours Morcs, growth rate? your tank reminds me of DavidR's, but lacks the fish size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Angels... poo! (not my faves), buy snookies silver $s, that way he can buy my nandus :lol: - still interested snookie? I like the indo, he has the same pattern as one of mine on one side but lacks the merged stripe that mine has on the other side 8) Love the albinos eyes, whereas the normals have distinguished pupils etc the albinos have really weird reflective eyes ! - same with the dats, big eyes . Im hopefully picking up the AT in albany next week, wondering if he will stick up to my bigger dats, my bigger ones are probably 2-3 times his size, should be ok though right? How big is yours Morcs, growth rate? your tank reminds me of DavidR's, but lacks the fish size. Growth has been slow although ive been feeding and WC a lot to help growth. Thats the thing with dats, even when ya power feed them, they dont grow quickly! The AT has grown faster. Both are now just under 4'', but the indo is the boss. I wouldnt worry about aggression between dats. Its usually just a bit of chasing. Ive read many times about full grown adults being kept with babies and they dont get eaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 yeah, my oddball indo should be filed for harrassment - he chases the other one around the WHOLE time, I just wonder how he keeps the stable condition What do you think will happen if I add the AT? will he end up being chased the most or will he be ignored? bit of a hoper Q sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 No idea, see what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 On another note I saw that jardinis may be imported again? anyone got more info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Jardini's are supposed to be absolutely vicious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 yeah I want one, they look awesome, I've seen them kept with other fish but I think the rule is to have them smaller than most of the others initially and grow them up like that. Bit cheaper too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 hae heard that their aggression isnt too bad when smaller, but have heard of instances that when they get bigger they seem to snap so to speak and try to kill everything... But as always that will probably depend on the fish... Have a chat to LA and see how he found/find them to keep and the possible tankmates for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Just remembered to ask, how long have you had your dats Duncan7? and how big? Do you feed them hikari pellets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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