SamH Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I know this has been done many times but I have found some fry hanging out in my 54L planted. There is one male platy, two young rams and two ottos. Not the platy so who is it? Would otto fry stick to the glass? No ones looking after them but I have caught two in a cup until I fix up the net breeder. Trying for a third now. Have some algae covered riccia in the cup with them, hoping they can eat what ever's living in that. Too small for crushed flakes, maybe M worms though. Any ideas on what they could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 you are the second person today (that I know) that has possibly bred ottos! this other person has some sticking on his glass, but they are small and the neons are popping them off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 No one seems interested in them at this stage, super happy I've "saved" two so far. Hoping the ones that were knocked down by my clumsy catching haven't been gobbled by the platy. Fed the tank so hopefully they won't be hungry. They're not sticking to the glass so I think they're Rams. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 The two are now in the net breeder, used an old pair of stockings to replace the net. Still alive, I think. Too small to eat microworms though. :-? Zev, did you have any egg layers in the tank you got the Riccia for me from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Meeeyyybbbeee..... They will be either Poropanchax normani or Psuedepiplatys annulatus - Norman's Lampeye or Clown killies. I feed mine JBL Novotom. My evil plan to spread Killies around is working!!! Found anything in your tank yet, Phoenix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 nope! i found nothing. but i have green cories in there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Does this help? I tired to focal B&W it but it didn't really do much... :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Both were alive yesterday, haven't seen them today although that's normal. They're very hard to see. What kinda fry do they look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Shovel nose catfish? :lol: (I know there is always one :roll: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wait a bit, if they get blue glowy bits over their eyes, they are normani. If not, and they seem to take ages to grow but develop stripes when really little, they are annulatus. I would wager on the annulatus at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Do orange eyes count? :lol: So how did said fry get into the Riccia, Zev? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 That would be telling!!! Actually, these types of killies, especially the annulatus are surface dwellers, and the fry from day one are always at the top. They must be pretty hardy to have survived being unceremoniously dragged out of the tank in some riccia, biffed into a ziplock bag, sit in my bag most of the day, stuffed into a cardboard anti-crush construction that I had to make for the envelope with the bag in it, squeezed into the post box because it must have been borderline 20mm thick, transported to the mail sorting centre in a van, sorted, then thrown in a bag and placed on a truck up to Auckland then delivered to you, possibly on a scooter or pushbike. Not bad, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Wow I hope they survive from now on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Wow - after all that it would be too bad if you managed to kill them, Sam! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well they're in the Marina net breeder now with a clump or two of floating, algae covered Riccia na dI'm feeding Liquifry once a day. They're still too small to take microworms but they're still alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Look like annulatus to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Hmmm... how much light does ricca need if it were floating ?? still a lot light?? they look like clowns to me as well (A lighter coloured background would of helped though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Give it heaps N1CK. Even more tied down. Argh! Are those your pics Zev? :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yup, Sam. How much light do you have, N1ck? I have it surviving at the top of a tank with a 15w fluro and in an AquaOne AR380 with the standard lamp in it (doesn't like the water movement, though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 currently 2x18w T8's (there a pinky colour), It would be a floating plant though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah the annulatus is almost twice the size of the other one. Do I need to seperate them soon? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sounds like you may have enough light, N1ck. If you want some more, I can send you a few little bits that are starting to annoy me in my 2footer, get stuck on the moss and grow in little clumps, mind you, having a Fluval 304 in one end of the tank probably doesn't help... Yeah the annulatus is almost twice the size of the other one. Do I need to separate them soon? :-? They have deceptively large mouths, but it should be ok for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I feed BBS to rocket/clowns from day one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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