Guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I want some too :bounce: . Pity that they're probably going to be really expensive :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I want some too :bounce: . Pity that they're probably going to be really expensive :-? around $40 each i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hopefully someone locally can breed and sell them. I think I'll stick to the normal blue rams and gold rams for now. I'm going to set up a tank with all sorts of dwarf cichlids eventully and just thought these would be awesome to add to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Someone had better breed them :evil: I would but space is limited and haven't tried breeding ordinary rams yet so wouldnt like the trial and error aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wow they look awesome. Would look very cool in my tank with its dark substrate too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Someone had better breed them :evil: I would but space is limited and haven't tried breeding ordinary rams yet so wouldnt like the trial and error aspect. I am considering getting a pair or 2 and giving it a go.. But I am 50/50 with the fact that normal blues keel over so easily these guys would be more inbred so weaker.. And also the fact these are a new and sort after strain internationally I wouldn't put it past the breeders to have sterilized them before sending to control the market.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitzy Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I am considering getting a pair or 2 and giving it a go.. But I am 50/50 with the fact that normal blues keel over so easily these guys would be more inbred so weaker.. And also the fact these are a new and sort after strain internationally I wouldn't put it past the breeders to have sterilized them before sending to control the market.. Think ill wait to see if they can be bred you do it ryan then ill follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I am considering getting a pair or 2 and giving it a go.. But I am 50/50 with the fact that normal blues keel over so easily these guys would be more inbred so weaker.. And also the fact these are a new and sort after strain internationally I wouldn't put it past the breeders to have sterilized them before sending to control the market.. I wonder how they would throw if crossed back with a "common" Blue's, If I had the space (and $$) I'd like to get 10 and try mixing it up a little (that way if they only sterilised the M or F you'd at least get a shot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah that wouldn't be a stupid plan.. But it would entirely depend on what sort of money you had to potentially throw away, if they are anything like the blues/golds I have kept no matter what you do they just don't seem to last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 mine are already trying to breed this lady better come pick up her fish on sold so I can put them in a breeding tank! also JK your avatar pic awesome! that movie is insanely wierd got made to watch it the other day!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Nice looking fish Luke! Price seems reasonable too considering they're new and not exactly easy to breed. Simian I'm not really sure why you would want to cross them back with normal rams, other than to undo all the selective breeding someone has put a lot of effort into. If anything people who breed these should be selective about the fry they sell, making sure they are as good (or better) than their parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Nice looking fish Luke! Price seems reasonable too considering they're new and not exactly easy to breed. Simian I'm not really sure why you would want to cross them back with normal rams, other than to undo all the selective breeding someone has put a lot of effort into. If anything people who breed these should be selective about the fry they sell, making sure they are as good (or better) than their parents. Good luck A-town keeps us updated with how you go hopefully you get to at least the stage where you see if the eggs are viable.. A cross back would be good to strengthen the genes but you would have to breed one of the siblings back to a parent or breed between siblings to get the colour back. Hopefully they are hardy enough not to need this.. I agree hopefully anyone who can breed them is very selective there maybe a high number of deformities etc pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 There are not many importers prepared to bring rams in, particularly the golds, because they are so hard to keep alive. An imorter down here had some tested for disease and Maf almost destroyed the whole shipment because of some bacterial disease they came up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 waiting for mine to come out of quarantine, apparently they got whitespot. oh well better they get sick on someone else's dollar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 purr purr purrrrrr just picked mine up (sitting in their plastic bag in their new home right now). Pics in a few days when they feel more at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 came from Hutt Pets, 2 left there, 1M 1? (wasn't showing fins off properly). 4 in new Porirua store, quarantined, didn't check sexes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskas Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 how much are they darkfur? Would love to get a male as i have a female gold ram who needs a mate. Seems a shame but since cant find any normal male gold rams the only option left is blues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 they were $38.50 in the Hutt and $39.90 in Porirua for some reason. Apparently waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less fish turned up than were ordered as the importer had a whitespot outbreak. If they treat them successfully maybe more will come on the market. If you want them I would start ringing the petshops now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 how much are they darkfur? Would love to get a male as i have a female gold ram who needs a mate. Seems a shame but since cant find any normal male gold rams the only option left is blues... can't that petshop in Kuripuni get you one? they are usually good. Or the other one down here to phone would be Petone Animalz, they are the best in the region, usually have rams and are nice about ordering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 just found a pretty video of ebr's on youtube sooooo gorgeous although it looks way overstocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 i saw some at animates papanui today, $30each very cool looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I have totally taken over this thread :lol: So one of my newbies let me take pics... this is the one I am *hoping* is a female and please please please say it is lol oh please be a girl! the other one is camera shy but is a little bigger, has bigger dorsal rays and a lot more "attitude" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 side-on, same fish they are very relaxed and curious considering they have only been in their tank a wee while. Colouring up well too as you can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Since their debut at the Singapore show the creators have only tried to release the males. I will be ordering some in at some stage - perhaps once the craze has died down a bit. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'm thinking that the fish in your picture might be a female, it's a bit hard to tell but in the second 2 pics it looks like it could be a male and in the first I'm 99% sure it's a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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