tonka toy Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Was just wondering as I have not read any posts on these. Can they safely be given to bearded dragons as live food. If so would you clean them out some how???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 has my mind but doubt much goodness in maggots tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 ensuring they are clean is the problem, some keep them in bran for a few days before feeding out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 but then clean is what you keep them in.... if you left, say cheese out to get maggots, the resultant maggots would only have some cheese on them, and therefore wouldnt bo so...unclean? maggots have been used for centaries in medical feild to get rid of Necrotizing fasciitis (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis) and to get dead skin etc out of major wounds. they only eat dead flesh you see, and leave teh living flesh alone, thereby cleaning the wound and stopping gangrean or other infections from causing the need for amputation etc... ah, lovely maggots..... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 don`t think the odd flyblowen sheep that I have come across would swallow that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Yes you are right Maggots only eat decaying flesh. But they also excreate an enzyme that causes flesh to decay so when we use them (laval therapy) to debride eschar then we have to be very careful about how long they are in a wound. They are also a special type of larvae rather than just any old house fly....lol HTH Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonka toy Posted August 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 So is it a yes if they are kept in bran for a few days? Its just we live on a farm and access to maggots in summer is rather easy work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 So is it a yes if they are kept in bran for a few days? Its just we live on a farm and access to maggots in summer is rather easy work are you pulling the wool? over our eyes taking maggots off a carcasse may be a source of infection depending what the animal died from use some dog food etc and grow your own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonka toy Posted August 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 No I was not pulling the wool! LOL I meant we live next to the bush and we have flys that will lay eggs on ANYTHING!!!! You cant even leave a jersey on the rails in the height of summer!!! Of course I would culture them on good stuff :bounce: So feeding them YES?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 http://www.finchsociety.org/cfa/livefood/flies.htm a discussion on feeding them to newts http://www.caudata.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 chooks like 'em I wonder if you could gut load them to make them more nutritious? Pop some reptile vitamins in the bran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have freed them to Axolotls and they loved them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Regarding spreading disease: You can only get sick if pathogens that cause disease in your species enter your body in appropriate places/numbers/times. If a sheep died of a sheep disease and I ate it, I would not get the sheep disease. Also most disease pathogens die pretty soon after the host dies. Disease (etc) microorganisms are not the same ones that cause decomposition. Your stomach (and that or most animals) produces kickass acid, one of the main reasons is to kill off microbes. Ever wondered how a dog can eat rotten muck and faeces and not get sick? So you are not going to introduce disease to your tanks in any way other than by introducing the microorganisms that cause disease, which were shed by another fish. Of course some pathogens are everywhere anyway (eg fungal) in which case they are... everywhere anyway.... So you aren't going to get a fish sick by feeding it a wild terrestrial insect (in the vast majority of cases). I don't know if there is a legitimate reason for needing to empty the gut of a maggot, but I doubt it (I know it is often stated that it must be done, but I would like to see actual science) Charles Mitchell, the 'whitebait farmer' in Raglan hangs possum carcasses over his ponds and the maggots fall off into the water and get eaten. My understanding with flyblown sheep and maggots only eating dead flesh, is the maggot initially eats bacteria living in the wet wool. The maggot secretes acids which eat at the flesh and kill it, creating maggot food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Sid Smithies used to hang rabbit carcasses over his fish ponds so the maggots dropped in too 8) I don't know whether maggots are good for reptiles or not though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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