BikBok Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I've been using tonic salt bought from a petshop but I've seen people talk about epsom salt for salt baths. I was out shopping tonight and saw some epsom salt at the supermarket so bought some. What's the difference between the two and do either affect pH ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Tonic salt is common salt (sodium chloride) while epsom salts is magnesium sulphate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 oh ok.. so the epsom is a muscle relaxant? which is why humans put it in their bath too. What would be the applications for the aquarium... and is dosage different? The reason I ask, is I am currenlty salt bathing my betta (30 mins a day) for a bump that appeared on her head. day 3 and the bump is reducing.. I'm using tonic salt.. wonder if epsom salt would be better and if the dosage would be the same or different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosty Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Epsom salt helps you edit:suphew http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=25743 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Epsom Salt is usually used if your Fish are Constipated So in other words it makes them Poooo Instead of buying Tonic Salt from the Petshop you can just buy Rock Salt from the Supermarket, does the same job, just make sure it doesn't contain any Iodine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 cool, this has been very helpful. That link was good too. now , what about Scaless fish like kuhli, are they able to tolerate any salt at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 My Loaches are fine with Rock Salt, just dont overdose with it I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ahh the old iodine debate :-) As above the normal salt (sodium chloride) which is labled as rock salt, aquarium salt or just table salt is good for external infections and will control fungal infections and protozoal infestations and can help protect against nitrite (NO2) poisoning. Epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) is supposed to be good for constipation in fish and is of some benifit to fish suffering dropsy or hard metal poisoning as the magnesium salt wont pass through the lining wall of the stomach, like normal salt will, but will extract or absorb excess water out of the kidneys and surrounding tissue where it can be passed naturally out of the fish. It should also be used prior to using medications for internal diseases like metronidozole or praziquantel as it clears the way and so the medication will work quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hi Bilbo, where does the iodine make a difference...It is a natural antimicrobial after all. But like silver and golds should not be used where kidnet disease is present. Do you know if it works on fish the same way? Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I use epsom salts in my african set up as part of my buffer recipe. Water here is a little on the soft side. Just like th AB's last week. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/buffer_recipe.php Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 What is the ABs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 What is the ABs? he's being rude All Blacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Whoday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I use non iodine salt but only because that’s what I have. The amount of iodine in the normal table salt is so small that its is very unlikely to cause a problem. It is said that to get a toxic dose of iodine would need a salt concentration more than enough to kill kelp but I would still prefer to not to risk it. Tiny amounts of iodine may, as Navarre suggests, be beneficial in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Good info Guys :bounce: I always wondered about the Iodine debate :roll: Wont worry to much about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 LOl thanks Bilbo. Thats interesting as some naturalist suggest we eat kelp to supliment the iodine we need...lol...I think..might have to look that up again. Anyway thanks for clearing that up Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 How will you morph into a frog and get kissed by a prince if you don't get your iodine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Because by not getting the iodine I will develop a lovely big goitre to attract all the girls. Bwahhh hahhh hhhhaaaa That means I wont need to be kissed by a prince sweetpea :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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