Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 A photo of Abigail's black flounder (or "wee predacious flying carpet"!!) 11cm total length. I want me one!! Go on, more details of how you keep these, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 That is one cool fish :bounce: :bounce: By the way, are they fresh water? Thanks for sharing . ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 yes, but they breed at sea and the tiddlers come back in to freshwater. They are mostly lowland but can come very far inland as well. The yellowbelly(?) flounder is the tidal/estuarine one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I want :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 nice fish abigail what is your substrate please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 oh no, I think we should delete this thread before I feel compelled to include them in the book. There is not enough space in my house for more fish!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I just had a cool idea - theres a variety of substrates in the tank and he moves around so I get to play the fabulous game of "where's the flounder?" (his other super power is camo) I could take pics of him in different positions so you guys could play too :-) hmm although it would involve me having to learn a bit more about photoposting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Hi There Kewl fish What do you feed and how often? Will you need to slowly make tank SW? What is growth like and how big will it get? Very Kewl Fish Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 go on stella one more tank and another chapter in the book they look good when they stick on the glass and you can see the underside, it is like 2 different fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 thanks for posting pics Stella! although a still does him no justice - seeing him in action is priceless, when he's eating he sticks his wee tail up like a cat :-) and just before he pounces, his whole wee body goes rigid, its hilarious and wonderful :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_r Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 mmmmm dinner :lol: im gunna go floundering this weekend, havnt had a feed of flounder in aaaages looks like would be a choice pet aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 That would be really interesting! (oh, and we can post video to my youtube site if you have such capabilities. Most of the videos there were just done on my 'still' camera) Can they change colour or just shade variation? (I had a torrentfish, which is normally stripey grey, in a red bucket for most of a week, put him back in the tank and he was the strangest pinky-apricot!) Livingart, do you want to see this damned book finished or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dont add another chapter unless you have to Stella. I am still waiting for my signed copy...wont ever get it if you dont finish Besides it gives you an excuse to do another later on if there are more fishes to cover....lol Nav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 sorry stella you can do an updated version later navarre these flounder are found in your area as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 nice fish abigail what is your substrate please (I hope i got the quote function right) fine to med sand/gravel from the Lake he was living in, plus large cobbles a broken piece of terracotta and a stick - so far he hasn't sat on the stick but if he does it will be a good day :-) there are macrophytes in there as well but they're mostly to try and get his tank mate (grey mullet) to eat something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Well, the book is going to get some serious work over the next two months, and hopefully get finished. Most of it is sorting out the photos, and a small amount of editing. Determined not to include flounder in this one as it would require a massive re-write of the whole thing. I am sure there wil be a second edition (but for that, there must be a first edition first! ) Abigail, how big is the mullet? What are you feeding the flounder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 mmmmm dinner :lol: im gunna go floundering this weekend, havnt had a feed of flounder in aaaages looks like would be a choice pet aswell Paul-R dont eat this species they dont taste very good (we ate the bigger one in the photo above although I wont be doing so again, but mostly due to the rate that the Lake Wairarapa population has declined - feel a bit guilty now but at least I can pass on the recommendation to go for other flounders (salty ones) for food! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Hi There Kewl fish What do you feed and how often? Will you need to slowly make tank SW? What is growth like and how big will it get? Very Kewl Fish Navarre hello Navarre we feed whiteworms and other live food - he has only been in our house for maybe 3 or 4 weeks so much left to establish in terms of feeding regime - seems that it really does need to be moving for him to get his stealth on... No, fw should be fine Pretty sure growth research hasn't been done (correct me anyone plus give me reference :-)) my guess is that they will be quite slow growing although depends what kind of trophic level and temp etc they are living in... We actually have 3 adult flounder heads in our freezer until we learn enough about their wacky skull configuration to suss out where the otoliths are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Well, the book is going to get some serious work over the next two months, and hopefully get finished. Most of it is sorting out the photos, and a small amount of editing. Determined not to include flounder in this one as it would require a massive re-write of the whole thing. I am sure there wil be a second edition (but for that, there must be a first edition first! ) Abigail, how big is the mullet? What are you feeding the flounder? The mullet is maybe 60 TL? He's going back though in the next couple of days as we haven't been able to get him to eat. In retrospect, next time we would get at least two as we think hes stressed as he has no other mullet to school with (there are some inanga whitebait but hes not too keen). A. has kept greys successfully before but they were living in a group Go the book - looking forward to seeing it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 We actually have 3 adult flounder heads in our freezer until we learn enough about their wacky skull configuration to suss out where the otoliths are! :lol: You rock! (I have a couple of 5-6' giant kokopu in the freezer still if you want to help me out with a dissection) With the mullet, do you mean 60mm? That would be so cute!!! Have you tried them with ox heart? Preacher here tried it on his native pond for the first time a few months back and it sounded like the first pieces were gone before they hit the ground. Not sure what mullet naturally eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 :lol: You rock! (I have a couple of 5-6' giant kokopu in the freezer Wow a 6 foot giant kokopu I think you meant 5-6" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 oh nyah nyah! Yeah, my freezer could only handle one six foot giant kokopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbreeder Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 excuse me, do you have the flounder in a tank? what size? saltwater to freshwater? coldwater or tropical? how big will the flounder get? looks so cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 :lol: You rock! (I have a couple of 5-6' giant kokopu in the freezer still if you want to help me out with a dissection) With the mullet, do you mean 60mm? That would be so cute!!! Have you tried them with ox heart? Preacher here tried it on his native pond for the first time a few months back and it sounded like the first pieces were gone before they hit the ground. Not sure what mullet naturally eat. Sorry yes he's 60mm just a wee fulla :-) they are algal grazers in the wild so not sure if a big chunk of ox heart would be what the doctor ordered :-) Although, from memory (which means I'm probably wrong), A. said that his used to take bloodworms You should have no trouble finding the giant otoliths as their skulls are "normal" - wouold be interesting to compare age/length of wild ones with those that have been fed up on oxheart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 oh and yes they can change colour also although not to a huge degree. Ive got a vid of us tormenting a poor wee flounder in the wild by transferring him from a white bucket to a natural substrate - pretty awesome to watch but vids are 30plus MB - maybe I could put stuff on a cd for you next time I'm up your way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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