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They were in World of water for ages (about 6 months or more) so I got them both for a really good deal. Next trick will be getting them sexed :roll: and if I'm lucky breeding, if they really are L137 Soniae they grow relatively big so that may be hard.

The real puzzle is the black spots (very noticeable in the lighter fish) Like L138

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L137 are called blue eyed red fin pleco but their eyes dont look blue to me (unlike the real Blue eyed pleco: Panaque Cochliodon which very clearly have blue eyes)

they also look a bit like L310 Im not convinced all the pics on PC are authenticated

Next stop will be posting them on PC and see what the gurus come up with.

I need a good vent shot and one of the mouth to really get down to the nitty gritty.

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If they are L138's, it would be tempting to give em another 2 years to grow and chuck em all in a well lined pond in a secret location over summer, cross fingers and play some Barry White. Apparently they have been successfully pond spawned in Aussie. I think they are from Brazil so we may not see anymore wildcaught coming in:(

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I have seen H.Soniae and you would definitely notice the blue to their eyes, they are indeed pale blue.

Hypostomus is quite a crowded genus especially is those colourations but I'd say mr pleco's close to the mark.

Be interested to see what the PC crew say.

As you say, if they are from Brazil then we may not see them again.

Nice fish, look like they need a bit of conditioning which looks like is happening with your feeding regime.

Not sure how recently the Ibama list was put up here but you can see how many it includes including all the L #'s you've mentioned.

L002, L074 – Panaque sp.(L002) – Tiger ”Peckoltia”

L004, L005, L028, L073 – Hypancistrus Sp. (L004) – Angelicus Pleco

L010 – Loricaria lata

L011, L035, L108, L116 – Squaliforma cf. emarginata – Red Fin Thresher Pleco, Thresher Pleco

L017 –Hopliancistrus sp. (L017)

L020 – Oligancistrus sp. (L020)

L021 , L023 – Pterygoplichthys pardalis - Albino Pleco, Common Pleco

L024 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L024) – Flame Pleco, Red Fin Cactus Pleco

L025 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L025) – Scarlet Pleco

L027 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tapajos’ – Goldline Royal Pleco, Tapajos Royal Pleco, L027 Tapajos

L027, L027c – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tocantins’ – Platinum Royal Pleco, Tocantins Royal Pleco, L027 Tocantins

L027, L027c, LDA63 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘xingu’ – Longnosed Royal Pleco, Red Fin Royal Pleco, Xingu Royal Pleco, L027 ‘xingu’

L027a, L330 – Panaque cf. nigrolineatus – Watermelon Pleco

L027b – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus – Olive Royal Pleco, Teles Pires Royal Pleco

L030 – Oligancistrus sp. (L030)

L031, L176, L300, LDA04 – Parancistrus nudiventris – Peppermint Pleco

L033 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L033)

L036 – Hemiancistrus spilomma

L046, L098 – Hypancistrus zebra – Imperial Pleco, Zebra Pleco

L050 – Hypostomus cf. cochliodon – Spotted Cochliodon, Spotted Humpbacked Pleco

L053 – Harttia sp. (L053)

L056 – Pseudancistrus sp. (L056)

L058 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L058)

L063 – Pseadacanthicus sp. cf. serratus

L064 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L064)

L065 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L065) – Blizzard Cactus Pleco, Mustang Cactus Pleco

L066 – Hypancistrus sp. (L066) – King Tiger Pleco, Network Pleco, Scribbled Pleco

L067 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L067)

L068 – Ancistrini sp. (L068)

L069 – Ancistrini sp. (L069)

L070 – Hypancistrus sp. (L070) – Zombie Pleco

L077 – Hypostomus sp. (L077) – Bruno Pleco, Rusty Pleco, Violet Pleco

L079 – Pseadacanthicus sp. (L079)

L082 – Ancistrini sp. (L082) – Opal Spot Pleco, Polka-dot Cigar Pleco

L083, L165 – Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps – Gibby, Sail Fin Pleco

L086, LDA14 – Oligancistrus sp. (L086)

L095 – Pseudorinelepis genibarbis – Orange Cheek Pleco

L096, L160 – Pseudacanthicus spinosus – Coffee & Cream Pleco, Spiny Monster Pleco

L097 – Pseaudacanthicus sp. (L097) – Polka Dot Cactus Pleco

L102 – Hypancistrus inspector – Snowball Pleco

L113, L234 – Megalancistrus parananus

L136, L136a, L136b, LDA05, LDA06 – Hypancistrus sp. (L136)

L137 – Hypostomus soniae – Blue Eyed Red Fin Pleco

L138 – Hypostomus sp. (L138)

L139 – Hypostomus sp. (L139)

L143 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L143)

L155 – Acanthicus hystrix – Lyre Tail Pleco

L168 – Dekeyseria brachyuran – Butterly Pleco, Flounder Pleco

L171, LDA15 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L171)

L172 – Ancistrini sp. (L172)

L174 – Hypancistrus sp. (L174)

L175 – Oligancistrus sp. (L175)

L178 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L178) – Red Fin Lasiancistrus

L179 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L179)

L185 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L185)

L186 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L186)

L196 – Pterygoplichthys lituratus

L197 – Ancistrini sp. (L197)

L198 – Ancistrini sp. (L198)

L208 – Ancistrini sp. (L208)

L210 – Ancistrini sp. (L210)

L216, L151 – Dekeyseria scaphirhyncha – Flat Head Pleco

L217 – Lithoxus sp. (L217)

L221, L223 – Guyanancistrus sp. (L221)

L238, LDA40 – Delturus sp. (L238) – Brook Pleco

L250 – Hypancistrus sp. (L250)

L251 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L251)

L254 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L254)

L256 – Lithoxus sp. (L256)

L258 – Parancistrus sp. (L258)

L259, LDA32 – Parancistrus sp. (LDA32)

L260 – Hypancistrus sp. (L260) – Queen Arabesque Pleco

L262 – Hypancistrus sp. (L262)

L263 – Leporacanthicus sp. (L263)

L270, L307, LDA76 – Hypancistrus sp. (L270) – Chocolate Zebra Pleco, Tapajos Zebra Pleco

L271 – Panaque sp. (L271)

L272 – Panaque sp. (L272)

L273 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L273) – Titanicus Pleco

L275 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L275)

L283 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L283)

L290, L291 – Squaliforma cf. horrida

L294 – Leporacanthicus cf. galaxias (L294)

L296 – Panaque sp. (L296)

L297 – Hypancistrus sp. (L297)

L299 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L299)

L310, LDA51 – Hypostomus cochliodon

L315 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L315)

L318 – Hypancistrus sp. (L318)

L320 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L320)

L321 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L321)

L328 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L328)

L332 – Parancistrus sp. (L332)

L337 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L337)

L343 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L343)

L333 – Hypancistrus sp. (L333)

L345 – Hypancistrus sp. (L345)

L347 – Pterygoplichthys sp. (L347)

L353 – Oligancistrus sp. (L353)

L354 – Oligancistrus sp. (L354)

L360 – Hypostomus sp. (L360)

L361 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L361)

L363 – Oligancistrus sp. (L363)

L365 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L365)

L366 – Hypostomus sp. (L366)

L367 – Hypostomus sp. (L367)

L373 – Oligancistrus sp. (L373)

L374 – Panaque sp. (L374)

L375 – Pseudacanthicus cf. spinosus

L380 – Pseudcanathicus sp. (L380)

L381 – Hypostomus sp. (L381)

L383 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L383)

L385 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L385)

L391 – Oligancistrus sp. (L391)

L397 – Panaque sp. (L397)

L398 – Panaque sp. (L398)

L399 – Hypancistrus sp. (L399)

L400 – Hypancistrus sp. (L400)

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Damm that's a big list of can't haves :(

Again tho that's why the efforts of mr pleco and others is so vital keep up the good work. a note to those of you with fancy plecs, if you need to sell please make sure you let the very few pleco breeders on here get a good shot at them before you chuck em on TM. it may be the last we see off some of them.

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Damm that's a big list of can't haves :(

Again tho that's why the efforts of mr pleco and others is so vital keep up the good work. a note to those of you with fancy plecs, if you need to sell please make sure you let the very few pleco breeders on here get a good shot at them before you chuck em on TM. it may be the last we see off some of them.

agree 100%

we need more, and since i read that export ban list a few days ago I've thought about how difficult its going to be to get fish here if no one helps out the breeders.

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