Simian Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I got both of these guys as Panaque Bruno's. Anyone confirm my ID? http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh29 ... =slideshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yep. they look like the 137 on planet catfish. http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... cies_id=43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 now I haven't seen any that look like those before. Where did you get them or is it a 'secret' Just joking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 yes looks like the L 137. :bounce: nice fish. adodge- there was one on here a while ago for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 They were in World of water for ages (about 6 months or more) so I got them both for a really good deal. Next trick will be getting them sexed :roll: and if I'm lucky breeding, if they really are L137 Soniae they grow relatively big so that may be hard. The real puzzle is the black spots (very noticeable in the lighter fish) Like L138 L137 are called blue eyed red fin pleco but their eyes dont look blue to me (unlike the real Blue eyed pleco: Panaque Cochliodon which very clearly have blue eyes) they also look a bit like L310 Im not convinced all the pics on PC are authenticated Next stop will be posting them on PC and see what the gurus come up with. I need a good vent shot and one of the mouth to really get down to the nitty gritty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 there was one for sale in welly in the PT&E section. try tracking it down and see if the owner has any pics for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I didn't dare request that I was driven to the World of Water last Saturday when we were in Hamilton. At that stage my polybox was full anyway but I could have fitted another bag in I'm sure :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 my guess is L138 just to confuse matters 8) yours clearly have spots thru the dorsal fin L137 does not nice plecs thou have a couple myself never bothered trying to figure out which Lnumber they were perhaps i should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 If they are L138's, it would be tempting to give em another 2 years to grow and chuck em all in a well lined pond in a secret location over summer, cross fingers and play some Barry White. Apparently they have been successfully pond spawned in Aussie. I think they are from Brazil so we may not see anymore wildcaught coming in:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Well spotted mr pleco. Thats why you are the master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have seen H.Soniae and you would definitely notice the blue to their eyes, they are indeed pale blue. Hypostomus is quite a crowded genus especially is those colourations but I'd say mr pleco's close to the mark. Be interested to see what the PC crew say. As you say, if they are from Brazil then we may not see them again. Nice fish, look like they need a bit of conditioning which looks like is happening with your feeding regime. Not sure how recently the Ibama list was put up here but you can see how many it includes including all the L #'s you've mentioned. L002, L074 – Panaque sp.(L002) – Tiger ”Peckoltia” L004, L005, L028, L073 – Hypancistrus Sp. (L004) – Angelicus Pleco L010 – Loricaria lata L011, L035, L108, L116 – Squaliforma cf. emarginata – Red Fin Thresher Pleco, Thresher Pleco L017 –Hopliancistrus sp. (L017) L020 – Oligancistrus sp. (L020) L021 , L023 – Pterygoplichthys pardalis - Albino Pleco, Common Pleco L024 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L024) – Flame Pleco, Red Fin Cactus Pleco L025 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L025) – Scarlet Pleco L027 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tapajos’ – Goldline Royal Pleco, Tapajos Royal Pleco, L027 Tapajos L027, L027c – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tocantins’ – Platinum Royal Pleco, Tocantins Royal Pleco, L027 Tocantins L027, L027c, LDA63 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘xingu’ – Longnosed Royal Pleco, Red Fin Royal Pleco, Xingu Royal Pleco, L027 ‘xingu’ L027a, L330 – Panaque cf. nigrolineatus – Watermelon Pleco L027b – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus – Olive Royal Pleco, Teles Pires Royal Pleco L030 – Oligancistrus sp. (L030) L031, L176, L300, LDA04 – Parancistrus nudiventris – Peppermint Pleco L033 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L033) L036 – Hemiancistrus spilomma L046, L098 – Hypancistrus zebra – Imperial Pleco, Zebra Pleco L050 – Hypostomus cf. cochliodon – Spotted Cochliodon, Spotted Humpbacked Pleco L053 – Harttia sp. (L053) L056 – Pseudancistrus sp. (L056) L058 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L058) L063 – Pseadacanthicus sp. cf. serratus L064 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L064) L065 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L065) – Blizzard Cactus Pleco, Mustang Cactus Pleco L066 – Hypancistrus sp. (L066) – King Tiger Pleco, Network Pleco, Scribbled Pleco L067 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L067) L068 – Ancistrini sp. (L068) L069 – Ancistrini sp. (L069) L070 – Hypancistrus sp. (L070) – Zombie Pleco L077 – Hypostomus sp. (L077) – Bruno Pleco, Rusty Pleco, Violet Pleco L079 – Pseadacanthicus sp. (L079) L082 – Ancistrini sp. (L082) – Opal Spot Pleco, Polka-dot Cigar Pleco L083, L165 – Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps – Gibby, Sail Fin Pleco L086, LDA14 – Oligancistrus sp. (L086) L095 – Pseudorinelepis genibarbis – Orange Cheek Pleco L096, L160 – Pseudacanthicus spinosus – Coffee & Cream Pleco, Spiny Monster Pleco L097 – Pseaudacanthicus sp. (L097) – Polka Dot Cactus Pleco L102 – Hypancistrus inspector – Snowball Pleco L113, L234 – Megalancistrus parananus L136, L136a, L136b, LDA05, LDA06 – Hypancistrus sp. (L136) L137 – Hypostomus soniae – Blue Eyed Red Fin Pleco L138 – Hypostomus sp. (L138) L139 – Hypostomus sp. (L139) L143 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L143) L155 – Acanthicus hystrix – Lyre Tail Pleco L168 – Dekeyseria brachyuran – Butterly Pleco, Flounder Pleco L171, LDA15 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L171) L172 – Ancistrini sp. (L172) L174 – Hypancistrus sp. (L174) L175 – Oligancistrus sp. (L175) L178 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L178) – Red Fin Lasiancistrus L179 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L179) L185 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L185) L186 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L186) L196 – Pterygoplichthys lituratus L197 – Ancistrini sp. (L197) L198 – Ancistrini sp. (L198) L208 – Ancistrini sp. (L208) L210 – Ancistrini sp. (L210) L216, L151 – Dekeyseria scaphirhyncha – Flat Head Pleco L217 – Lithoxus sp. (L217) L221, L223 – Guyanancistrus sp. (L221) L238, LDA40 – Delturus sp. (L238) – Brook Pleco L250 – Hypancistrus sp. (L250) L251 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L251) L254 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L254) L256 – Lithoxus sp. (L256) L258 – Parancistrus sp. (L258) L259, LDA32 – Parancistrus sp. (LDA32) L260 – Hypancistrus sp. (L260) – Queen Arabesque Pleco L262 – Hypancistrus sp. (L262) L263 – Leporacanthicus sp. (L263) L270, L307, LDA76 – Hypancistrus sp. (L270) – Chocolate Zebra Pleco, Tapajos Zebra Pleco L271 – Panaque sp. (L271) L272 – Panaque sp. (L272) L273 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L273) – Titanicus Pleco L275 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L275) L283 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L283) L290, L291 – Squaliforma cf. horrida L294 – Leporacanthicus cf. galaxias (L294) L296 – Panaque sp. (L296) L297 – Hypancistrus sp. (L297) L299 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L299) L310, LDA51 – Hypostomus cochliodon L315 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L315) L318 – Hypancistrus sp. (L318) L320 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L320) L321 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L321) L328 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L328) L332 – Parancistrus sp. (L332) L337 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L337) L343 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L343) L333 – Hypancistrus sp. (L333) L345 – Hypancistrus sp. (L345) L347 – Pterygoplichthys sp. (L347) L353 – Oligancistrus sp. (L353) L354 – Oligancistrus sp. (L354) L360 – Hypostomus sp. (L360) L361 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L361) L363 – Oligancistrus sp. (L363) L365 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L365) L366 – Hypostomus sp. (L366) L367 – Hypostomus sp. (L367) L373 – Oligancistrus sp. (L373) L374 – Panaque sp. (L374) L375 – Pseudacanthicus cf. spinosus L380 – Pseudcanathicus sp. (L380) L381 – Hypostomus sp. (L381) L383 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L383) L385 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L385) L391 – Oligancistrus sp. (L391) L397 – Panaque sp. (L397) L398 – Panaque sp. (L398) L399 – Hypancistrus sp. (L399) L400 – Hypancistrus sp. (L400) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 no didnt have the latest list and thanks for that nice to see yr still around firenzenz hows yr L136a doing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Damm that's a big list of can't haves Again tho that's why the efforts of mr pleco and others is so vital keep up the good work. a note to those of you with fancy plecs, if you need to sell please make sure you let the very few pleco breeders on here get a good shot at them before you chuck em on TM. it may be the last we see off some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Damm that's a big list of can't haves Again tho that's why the efforts of mr pleco and others is so vital keep up the good work. a note to those of you with fancy plecs, if you need to sell please make sure you let the very few pleco breeders on here get a good shot at them before you chuck em on TM. it may be the last we see off some of them. agree 100% we need more, and since i read that export ban list a few days ago I've thought about how difficult its going to be to get fish here if no one helps out the breeders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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