Dixon1990 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 So i have 3 apistos in my 300L community tank. 1 was bought from animates as 'borelli' , but i got told it was steelblue. Then i bought 2 off trademe as borelli that were bred by BK. They all look identical, and i got 3 males and cant tell the difference.(they all have pointed fins) Any ideas whos who? They all have a grey body with a dark line going down their body and a bit of blue on their face and a slight blue on their body sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Animates have been getting in steel blues as borelli and they are unable/unwilling to rename them as anything else due to their system and how it works.. I had a female from BK and a steel blue male, they looked similar but not the same so too dodgy to breed from.. I would suggest you get more "borelli" from animates or more "borelli" from BK to make up pairs of what you have otherwise apisto id's are just too dodgy.. I am unsure exactly what that Borelli from BK are either they are probably the opal or wild type colouration as mine didn't really do an awful lot and I ended up loosing them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I cant get any females cause they are all identical :-? If i got females from BK i wouldnt know what one is the one from animates to remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 When I got the steel blue and BK female pair I emailed BK and asked for his opinion.. He picked the female as his and the male had definite differences from his "borelli" line mainly he was alot more colourful than BK's ones.. I guess it is upto you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ok, ive decided i will sell 2 males and get a couple females for the remaining male and put them into their own tank. And il get a panduro pair at the same time for the 300L tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver-foxx Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 see http://www.dwarfcichlid.com/index.php this site has a good explination as to what is what. steel blue are a morph. I have 2 x breeding trio that have bred I am looking at importing true Apistogramma borellii The importers have plenty of 'steel blues' at the moment. good luck they are still a beautifulm fish female turns yellow when spawning temp selection yeilds: 26 deg, all female 27 deg, mixed sexes 28 deg, all males Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 ask for the yellow cheek apisto and you may get a borellii if you're lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 steel blue are a morph. aka. Hybrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 see http://www.dwarfcichlid.com/index.php this site has a good explination as to what is what. steel blue are a morph. I have 2 x breeding trio that have bred I am looking at importing true Apistogramma borellii The importers have plenty of 'steel blues' at the moment. good luck they are still a beautifulm fish female turns yellow when spawning temp selection yeilds: 26 deg, all female 27 deg, mixed sexes 28 deg, all males That site clearly states noone really knows what they are and they are most likely hybrid.. It is a very good site and has some of the best info on steel blues that I have seen so thanks for sharing it Do you have your importers licence and quarantine room silverfox it would be a very handy thing to have (but not economical to have) at times that's for sure... Seems the steel blues are pretty easy to breed there are a few locally breeding them that I know of so bound to be many more with them, a very nice fish though one of these days I might get a girl for my lonely boy, but as their future in NZ is pretty secure its probably not worth it.. Dixon do you have any pics of your male from BK's line? Or does it just look like a steel blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Allthree look the same, Just like a steel blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver-foxx Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 what I ment was I was looking to find an importer who will bring some in for a small group... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Oh yeah sweet as silverfox let me know I can add a few names to the list for borelli and possibly other species if you can arrange it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 is BK burger king? :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Yep sure is, they breed fish at BK in Chch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 lol in all seriousness though .. what is BK? (just to help the uneducated like me understand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 BK is just a CHCHers forum name. He breeds apistos and a few other fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 lol yep as Dixon said Sorry can't resist being a smart ass sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 you up with the baby? this is a late post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 lol yeah you picked it He has started to stay up all night and sleep all day, helps me keep my sanity if I get him up and jump on here and do stuff at 2am in the morning lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 been there done that and won't do it again the baby thing that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Oh the baby thing ...thought it was keeping sanity. has anyone seen mine? I think all that Meth Blue has driven it out. Out damn spot I say. Anyways....Would the Real Borelli please stand up Please stand up...? Pity these are not around as Casseroles Avitar is very nice. Would be great to put some down next to the filamentosa and the flashers and the Nanos and those Pelvachromis Taienatus reds yellows and greens. Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Alas dear Nvarre i knew him well To be or not to be, that is the question; Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep; No more; and by a sleep to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to — 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep; To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Oooohhh a challange I like it. Pity about steel blues tho...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver-foxx Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery.php?genus=Apistogramma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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