Dave+Amy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 My turq appeared to be bloated two days ago and swimming downwards was hard and I thought he just had constipation and would have got over it by now but it's got worse, it's either swimming on its side or upside down swimming and he's still got a bloated stomach from what it looks like. He just can't get upright Would it be just his constipation or does he sound like he's got a swimming bladder problem? He's highly stressed at the moment his stress bars showing 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I would dose with epsom salts at 1-2 Tablespoons per 10g imediatly ,if blockage is the cause and is not cleared bacterial infection will set in and then effect the fishs swim bladder ,this is not easily cured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 is epsom salt readily available from supermarkets or will I have t get it from a health store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Most supermarkets will have it in the health/bath isle just make sure its got no additives in.This will not harm others in tank,just make them poop.You need this yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 yeah it happens all the time so I thought he'd get over it like all the other times thanks for the help! If I have him in a big tank with a lot of other fish will it be ok? Did you mean 2 Tablespoons per 10L? (what's 10g? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (what's 10g? ) 10 gallons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosty Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 You can get epsom salt from Binn Inn also, 10 gallons is 45 litres or for the americans on the forum 40 litres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 :oops: :oops: after 3hours of analysing bird faeces I was a bit brain dead...realised it meant gallons after I had thought about it lol friday mornings and tedious work doesn't mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 :oops: :oops: after 3hours of analysing bird faeces I was a bit brain dead...realised it meant gallons after I had thought about it lol friday mornings and tedious work doesn't mix Are you trying to invent a cure for the bird flu If you can't remove the blockage, the fish will stress out and eventually die. Hope the epsom salt can fix it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 have you tried putting him in a fish bag, stressing him out and then putting him back in the tank after a while? theory is the fish will poo out of sheer fright. its worked with me. drastic i know, but im sure you can try it if you need to. i had a bloated or bloated looking fighter that i shook around for a while PS- DONT FEED THEM SO MUCH ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Epsom salt is a very very good way of getting the fish pooping, probably no point in scaring the poop out of them except for an absolute last resort, good luck I hope things improve for the discus sometimes these things do just happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 an update - he's upright now (epsom salted him in a separate bucket a couple of hours ago) but he's still a bit weird when he swims, he's got his fins clamped but his belly's smaller so I'm guessing he's let it out. He's not eating yet just staying to one spot. Phoenix - I can't help it that he has a healthy appetite :lol: Ron - for our research project we chose to analyse what the birds from the Karori Wildlife sanctuary were consuming, unfortunately it meant we have to tramp for 3hours twice a week collecting poop from 7 of the feeding stations then spend another few hours flushing the poop with water and extracting the seeds for identification....I wish we chose something like weighing fluffy ducklings or something it's revolting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 want some of rusty's poop? :lol: I'd love to know what amounts of what he is absorbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 trust me it's survival of the fittest in my tank so they all scoff when someone else is disctracting the Blue Diamond...they all get little round bulges after dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 i love making my fish fat. i have a convict that eats and eats and eats. then sits at the bottom and comes up for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 haha it's too bad that they don't remember that they're full and keep eating WHat should be my next step if my Discus doesn't come right in the morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAuckland Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 it maybe course by internal parasite such as intestine flaggelates, worms like hexamita, roundworms...etc...i suggest you deworm your whole tank amy...you sick discus may not infect others...but it still remain inside others discus....so it depends on you deworm or no.....cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 haha it's too bad that they don't remember that they're full and keep eating WHat should be my next step if my Discus doesn't come right in the morning? Keep treating him with E salt and don't feed for a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 it shouldn't have worms and I've recently treated the whole tank (about a month ago max) but I could add prazi in with tonight's waterchange along with epsom salt (would the two combined be too harsh for the fish?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Good Luck with your Discus Amy I hope he/she recovers soon. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Finally swimming normal again after two days of epsom salt treatment :bounce: :bounce: thanks for everyone's advice and help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 :bounce: Thats awesome news Amy :bounce: Hope he keeps it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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