Benny Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 does anyone know the scientific name of the cichlid known as the 'strawberry blue'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 maybe you can help me out here midas- Wet pets have some in the display tank nearest to the goldfish area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 I'm not sure what they are actually. Have wondered this myself before too. Some species of Vieja would be my best guess. Look kind of like Vieja synspila (Quetzal cichlid). Should ask Eric next time I see him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 apparently they had some juveniles not so long ago. I would really love one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 they looked a bit like blackbelt cichlids, but they arent. Anyone else with ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 since when have strawberries been blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Haven't seen the fish you are talking about so this is a complete guess but are they anything like those hybrid cichlids developed in asia called the flower horn. Some images can be found at http://www.kirin.com.sg/2species.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 I have seen them at the Aquarium here in Napier Also a friend of mine had some a few years back, will let you know when I find out Cheers /Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Seems like anything with the name of a fruit or berry in their name is dyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 these aren't dyed. Just their natural colours. Partly blue, partly reddy pink, a bit of grey too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 they arent dyed, and i dont think they are hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Benny said... > does anyone know the scientific name of the cichlid known > as the 'strawberry blue'? They came into Wet Pets as Cichlasoma synspilum several years ago as far as I can remember. The 'Strawberry Blue' bit was made up on site... It's amazing how far the name has spread. Nice fish though, if you like big SA cichlids. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 They came into Wet Pets as Cichlasoma synspilum several years ago as far as I can remember. The 'Strawberry Blue' bit was made up on site... hhmmm... Another species spotted? Anyone care to go here and find it in the list and register it. Or is this another one of those that isn't but is on that list ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 They came into Wet Pets as Cichlasoma synspilum several years ago as far as I can remember. The 'Strawberry Blue' bit was made up on site... ] Cool, I made a correct ID then That would make their most up to date scientific name Vieja synspila and they normally would go by the more commonly used (more common overseas at least) names of Quetzal cichlid or Red headed cichlid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 mystery solved! wet pets had some in the tank on top of the africans with all the red devils in it now according to the guy I talked to. I wonder where they got them from? I also rang up Hollywood fish farm and asked him about a strawberry blue, which he had no idea about, so i told him they are strawberry blue in colour and appear to get a hump on their head, so he guessed the red head cichlid. I wonder who thought up 'strawberry blue'? Those ones in the display tank seemed to be always picking fights with the severums and chocolate cichlids. When I was up there a couple of days ago i witnessed another fight between the big red tail catfish and the big red devil. Cees, wet pets have a few species that no one else has- I love looking at eric's jardini, beautiful fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Cees, wet pets have a few species that no one else has- I love looking at eric's jardini, beautiful fish! I'm getting the feeling (also because of Derek's comment a few days ago in another topic) that the number of fish species in New Zealand is much larger than the number listed on the 'allowable import' list. Did they come into the country before the list was established? Did they come into the country under an 'allowed name' and misidentified or did they come in unchecked? Or do we have the wrong list here? Opinions please. Should I add a category to the Fish Survey called 'Not on List' where all of you can register species that you 'spotted' (not necessarily own) that are not on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 I think adding another catergory 'Not on List' would be a good idea as far as us knowing what is out their. Don't know if MAF wouldn't actually do anything if they stumbled across our list and became aware what was coming in (don't want to deprive myself of those exotic plecos). Just a general suggestion for the evolution of the fish survey, I'd like to see reasonably up to date scientific names used, with a synonyms field (for less current names) and some indication of what name they can get into NZ under (eg I spent sometime on fishbase.org searching out synonyms for different fish: Moth catfish, Hara hara, had an older name of Pimlodus hara; according to the MAF IHS list all Pimlodus species as allowed). Having searchable fields for scientific name, synonyms and common name would be good. If administering such a list mainly invovled verification of scientific names, synonyms etc then I'd put my hand up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Cees said... > Should I add a category to the Fish Survey called 'Not on List' > where all of you can register species that you 'spotted' (not > necessarily own) that are not on the list? I think that might be a good idea. I've seen many things over the years that aren't on the permitted list. I remember seeing a tank full of Pangasius sutchii catfish once. Not that they're a practical animal for captive maintenance really... I've also seen 'Electric catfish' in NZ. Things come in from time to time as contaminants with more common fish or else as mimics in the case of some Corydoras. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 so you have seen an electric sausage ay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 does anyone from palmie remember seeing any juvenile 'strawberry blue' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Haven't seen any juveniles. But about a year ago they had some half sized ones for sale that they apparently got off the Massey vet display tank. They may have been from the orginal batch they got in several years ago that Andrew mentioned and just hadn't been fed as much out at Massey as the ones at wet pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted July 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 it is possible that we are wrong I got this straight from eric- They come in from time to time, south american cichlid, scientific name is cichlasoma fenistartium. My spelling might be a bit rough. we actually invented the name strawberry blue to sell them as we bred thousands of them in a tank. Can anyone make this out? does he mean cichlasoma/vieja fenestrata? can somene with a big aquarium book check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Link to the fish below, if that what it is of course, these fish get a very large fatty deposit on the front of thier heads as they get older, also a very bad attitude as well http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Species ... fenestrata http://images.google.com/images?as_q=Vi ... ata&num=20 Cheers /Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 I think adding another catergory 'Not on List' would be a good idea as far as us knowing what is out their. Don't know if MAF wouldn't actually do anything if they stumbled across our list and became aware what was coming in (don't want to deprive myself of those exotic plecos). New topic could be started on this. Why the MAF list. My personal view - number 1 reason = keep out disease. Just a general suggestion for the evolution of the fish survey, I'd like to see reasonably up to date scientific names used, with a synonyms field (for less current names) and some indication of what name they can get into NZ under (eg I spent sometime on fishbase.org searching out synonyms for different fish: Moth catfish, Hara hara, had an older name of Pimlodus hara; according to the MAF IHS list all Pimlodus species as allowed). Having searchable fields for scientific name, synonyms and common name would be good. How's your mysql and php ?? For now, if you know of a more up to date scientific name just register it with email address [email protected]. If administering such a list mainly invovled verification of scientific names, synonyms etc then I'd put my hand up for it. You're on! Once the scripts have matured to a useable form you're the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Cees said... > Should I add a category to the Fish Survey called 'Not on List' > where all of you can register species that you 'spotted' (not > necessarily own) that are not on the list? I think that might be a good idea. I've seen many things over the years that aren't on the permitted list. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/index.php?id=404&puid=278 The display of 'unlisted species' is anonymous. I would still like to see a valid email address upon registration. Problem, how do we deal with 'verification' ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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