Insect Direct Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yes they look like common bns but theyre not - not sure why 2 on left in first pic appear gold pics were taken in pitch black (at night) with flash on camera maybe stressed. anyway these are darker than common bn female gets slight bristles and generally are darker in appearance - fry especially dark pretty much black also in certain light have a metallic gold like shene to them (sorta see on large male in second pic) if that makes sence (prob not but hey i dont make sence whats new :lol: ) hardly see them as they just doing there own thing in tank with little tlc but noticed male getting rather large possibly bigger than commn bns recently and his bristles havent even branched yet. food for thought, anyone want to geuss what they are feal free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 looks like a common bn to me, they do change colour a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 The Male looks just like mine..lol Not helping much am i? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 yea they look similar to the common bn but theyre not 8) no dixon your not much help - are you trying to get you post count up or something? theres more to life :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Where did they come from? Did you get them from a particular source , and how much do you know of their history? Common Bn's here could be any number of ancistrus species, and your are most probably just another combination of a hybrid union. I've got some similar to yours, some smaller and darker, some with yellow tips to tails etc. Many plecs will have a metallic sheen to them on closer inspection Unless they were bought as a particular species through an importer. But Even they will creatively attempt to name a ancistrus species based on marketing rather than fact. Unknown ancistrus hybrid is my suggestion, depends how creative you want to be I guess. cleans the same though eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I have a few and the ones that are cruising on the back stones are nice an dark but i have one that stays close by to an ornament which is a blotchy tan/black colour. it's always blotchy looking too, like it's missing some colour, perhaps the same?? i know you said yo took pic at night etc but if theyre always by a lighter colour???? defence mechanisim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 came from a breeder in welly a year or 2 ago i suppose- he will post if he chooses to. pretty sure theres been posts in past about these... Not normally blochy - yes i know bns go blotchy if you upset them but generally these are dark/black especially the fry. my pics arnt to flash but you get that prob just some hybrid i agree just thought some catfish guru maybe able to shed some light, theyre very similar to com bns but imo theyre not (you sorta need to see them in flesh) hence why i never mixed them up and wouldnt want them x'd to them in future etc. I have kept and bred a fair few commons and none looked quite like these. and yep cleans the same as bns almost even looks the same :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 other we trate that suggests theyre diff to commons is the female gets slight bristles - cant say any of my common females had bristles that i noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 With my BNs the fry are always dark but any adult BN thats in a tank with light coloured or no gravel goes spotchy and sometimes a lighter colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 yea they look similar to the common bn but theyre not 8) no dixon your not much help - are you trying to get you post count up or something? theres more to life :lol: No, i would rather my postcount go down.... :lol: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think they are just standard colour and pattern variations. Probably some gold morphs in the lineage somewhere too. Some of my females get quite long, straight bristles around the mouth but other don't. A bit like the males' bristle length, and amount of curl, varies between the fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Isn't the females growing bristles a dominance thing? When kept in a group, the big Female might grow some, and the biggest male will grow Good bristles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hi Look like the Bushinnose i imported from Peru about 2 years ago..I have some here and did zip yet...But photo is not that good but think thats them... I was told by one that the spots on common appear to be not on the surface and Peru's are more visable..Take a close look...........Worked on mine...Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Well I just found this thread... They came from me. No Phil not from you and the babies don't look at all like the ones you got in. They came to me directly from a commercial import - direct from Peru as A. hoplogonus but they are clearly not that sp., so there is no NZ hybrid in them either. They are a bushy nose Ancistrus rather then a bristle nose = females have bristles. When you see them up close they look nothing like pure common b/n. You can clearly see separations on the skull between the large head scales and there head is flatter compared to common b/n. They do look smiler to hybrid common b/n, but so do many wild species of Ancistrus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 So there is a difference between what are commonly called "bushynose" and the "bristlenose"? Are there many of the bushynose variety around in NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 A bushynose ancistrus are species where the females also have bristles, there are a few around. The ones Phil bought in are, the Madusa are as well, this species + others I can't think of right now that are floating around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 If your female Bristlenose has bristles then it's a hybrid The point is on wild strains not whats in your tank, unless it's a wild strain :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 That may or may not be correct. This is however why it is important to choose our breeders carefully, we know better/care>?<. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 out of 3 sources of the common bns i got from around wellington or the hutt valley (about 2 years ago) not one female had bristles that i noticed...oh actually some of the ladies down there did but theyre another story haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 They seem to look the same as mine and mine are just regular brown Bristle Noses. My female seems to change colour depending on the gravel she's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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