Dixon1990 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 How common are these guys? And how much do they usually go for in shops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 They went for $180-$200 retail 3 yrs ago. Know there are a few around but not sure about breeding. Seem to remember most of the ones I saw were males and not many females- typical for us I guess as they were a sexable size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 lol 5 of mine died and sold one to mr pleco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 how did they die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 just one after over 3 weeks after i got them if i rember right, something internal i think plus supplier wasnt feeding them right when in quartine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 They're very sensitive fish and require ZERO pollutants in the water. They come from fast flowing areas as evidenced by the horizontally compressed body shape so replicating these conditions in an aquarium is difficult, Keep up regular water changes and keeping them can be easy but miss a few and you could end up with some very expensive dead medusas. RRP on them is $160-200 and I've had one go over $300 on auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 yep still have two of them here ,did have 5 but the one i bought of AP wiped out three others even after two weeks Q but thats fishing i guess never did find the reason as the other two id had for a year but after combining them they lasted just a week bought the two i still have now since then and like fireenenz said pretty sure they are both male but i like them anyway ,, prices can vary i have found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 any pics at all? would love to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 .........i guess never did find the reason I've lost two medusas a year apart and I'm almost certain it was due to stress from dominance issues. They are delicate and die easily if they get stressed. If you change the dynamics of the tank, i.e. add more medusas or change the number of hiding places or the position of them after they've got used to it, then the dominant fish may hassle the others. That seems to be enough to lose a fish or two over a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 maybe i should up the anti i never realised theyre all tempromental, mine been living off bloodworms every other month lol jj but they dont get tht much maybe they eat baby guppies either way they look amzing every time i see them out but i think they need more food as they dnt seem to like the algae tablets, anyone got any tips for feeding these, i think theyre more a meat eater from what i read online ages ago? even better a link to any info on breeding/recorded breedings would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hey Mincie. How many do you have? The problems I've had were with 4 individuals in a large (Aqua one) 3 foot tank (high filtration Fluval 205 + fluval 3+ internal) and no other residents. In both cases I had four and shortly afterwards three. If you've only got a pair then I think you'd be fine. Currently I have five in 2 groups. I'm also wondering what the best options is for feeding as well. They love bloodworms and will eat a home-made ox-heart based mixture, and at a pinch a home-made shrimp/vegetable mix. As for the Novopleco, Hikari algae wafers, zuchinni, etc. i'm not convinced. Any ideas??? maybe i should up the anti i never realised theyre all tempromental, mine been living off bloodworms every other month lol jj but they dont get tht much maybe they eat baby guppies either way they look amzing every time i see them out but i think they need more food as they dnt seem to like the algae tablets, anyone got any tips for feeding these, i think theyre more a meat eater from what i read online ages ago? even better a link to any info on breeding/recorded breedings would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 ive just gt a male & female suposibly, male been in cave fanning/pretending to alot over the past couple of months and female is always lerking near by especially once lights out. but yea ive been really slack ive had em a year or maybe more & havent done anything other than w/c's, chuck bloodworms and algae tabs (trumpet snails maul those) also had cories and guppies in tank until recently. medusas still smallish, 2 maybe 3 inchs long & an inch wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 heres a couple of pics i gt on my phone the other day, pics dont do justice, theyre really dark with bright white dots in reality (top knotch tuna) below = males nose just stickin out of driftwood on left and female hiding away on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I've just n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Well I've just noticed both your locality so I'd like to be the first to congratulate you on your joint breeding program. Please put me 1st on the list for babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 oh yea looking goooooood!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 they are in no doubt a fantastic looking fish, sadly VERY delicate. I would love a few but dont have the time to keep the up keep. Daily water changes would be a must in my OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 sadly VERY delicate. Daily water changes would be a must in my OP. based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hi Firenzenz, I brought them originally to try and breed them. However after losing my second one I'm just trying to keep them happy at the moment. They can be stressful to keep - especially if they ever develop pale blotches on the skin. To be honest I prefer my Panaques. Their far hardier and a pleasure to look after. Well I've just noticed both your locality so I'd like to be the first to congratulate you on your joint breeding program. Please put me 1st on the list for babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Yeah everything I read on these guys say they are carnivores and require twice as much protein as other bristles. So meaty diet with a chunk of zuccinhi a week. High oxygen content is needed, in fact they suggest RO systems, but current and airbubbles for sure. And 28-29 degrees. Would be great to get these guys going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 well i keep L14 L27 L47 L128 L81 L25 So i do have a fair care on the up keep. With the Medusa pleco they need a protein diet, this may consist of muscles, prawns or blood worms (and so on) This creates a major mess. Then add to the fact that they are a pleco and they are generally messy. This all adds up to poor water and fast. As they are delicate they need a constant and steady water peramaters. So daily water changes keep these in check. Just my opinon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Thanks for the info guys. I'll increase the protein a bit in their diets. They are certainly delicate and need very high water quality making them difficult to keep. They dont handle being stressed and seem to need their space when they start maturing. I have one female thats in very good nick and theres no doubt that shes a bully. Unfortunately if they fight and one gets stressed and sulks they fall over easily. I think they need more space than some of the other plecs. Flash plecs for example live in wood piles in the wild and seem more happy to live in a group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 hey flatfish you still got the colony of l204s i sold you? i think it was you who brought them? how are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 had my ups and downs with them. I've lost a couple and brought a couple more. Their challenging that's for sure and fairly stroppy. I've been away for several months overseas and are just starting to get back into it. A mate looked after your three while I was away for several months with mixed results but I now a small group including the fattest female I've seen and about 10 cm long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 i sold you six lol did some die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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