jetskisteve Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 come on Brian its not that far to raglan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 that windy road in my car every month :oops: :oops: no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 I agree with Pies, i'm too lazy to collect water. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 The way I look at it is, I can either work 3-4 hours longer to earn the money for some salt or I can go for a nice little drive and an hour-2 hour trip to get water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 ditto. because the beach is so close to me (1 minute to the local, or 10 minutes to a beach thats more convenient for collection) NSW works out to be easy and one hell of alot cheaper than $30 for every 120 litres of RODI water,... not to mention the time it takes to make RODI in the first place etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 And it's kinda fun splashing around in the water with jerry cans...Well, at least it was when it was WARM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 re: ASW vs NSW and cyano, puh, what a crock that one causes it more than the other. there is no difference. The fact is that seawater can cause cyno. Especially collect around high populated suburbs. The reason it does is due to the high organics of seawater. Were do you think all the run off goes to from the land, which will have waste/dust/ fertiliser etc. Be interesting if someone would go and get a lab to test the seawater around takapuna and see how high the traces of organics are. Cyno is cause by high organics and even if you use Asw you can have cyno due to the quality of your tank water. I have had sml traces on cyno in my tank and this normally happens if I feed to much brine shrimp etc. it always goes away once the water quality has been improved. Changing from NSW to ASW will stop cyno , however it will take some time as all the rock will take time to release all the organics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 No, I don't belive any of that. I know plenty of people who use NSW without cyno. I also know pleny of people who use ASW who have major cyno issues (do a search on RC or UR). Based on this I find it a struggle to find a correlation between NSW/ASW and cyno. Alois - If you find that when you feed frozen food you get cyno/algae I would think that means your skimmer is to small for you tank. Upgrade it Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 No, I don't belive any of that. I know plenty of people who use NSW without cyno. I also know pleny of people who use ASW who have major cyno issues (do a search on RC or UR). Based on this I find it a struggle to find a correlation between NSW/ASW and cyno. Alois - If you find that when you feed frozen food you get cyno/algae I would think that means your skimmer is to small for you tank. Upgrade it i think you should read my previous post again. i did not say that asw does not cause cyno. cyno is caused by excess nutrients which make it worse if you use seawater. i think my skimmer is big enough, it about the size of your tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 stop hijacking my post!!! sump room comments only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 i think my skimmer is big enough, it about the size of your tank. Its funny because its true... Chimera - More photos please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 ok, more photo's. here's about the most boring photo's you can get. angle brackets around wall screwed in and prep'd: first coat of plaster applied: Todo: Friday night = light sand back first coat and apply 2nd coat. Saturday morning = Sand back 2nd coat to finish and coat with gib sealer. Make hood for M/H's on a hinge type system. Create rack for skimmer in sump and flush sump out with water to rinse and test baffles (oh yeah, I'll post some pic's of the baffles too! What a mission that was) If time permits, start creating reef rack for main tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 So much for keeping to my time frame and getting the plastering finished. Thats what happens when your mates have their 30th birthday and you're too hungover to move... The plaster got lightly sanded back and 2nd coated at least. I made a small reef rack for my skimmer to sit on in the new sump (as the new sump is deeper). I've added the last two tank valves to the back of the main tank and siliconed them in nicely - also realised Im one ball valve short after I used that one on the outlet for the sump :roll: Another purchase for Monday morning. Here's a shot of them hooked up: I started making the reef rack for the main tank, what a mission that is. Also tested the baffles hold water ok in the sump. There is a small leak through one baffle, so small and slow Im not even going to worry about it :-? I also (finally) got 4 x rotating flow valves in from the UK. They simply hook up to a powerhead nozzle (and come with 4 different sized fittings to fit various size nozzles) They are quite cool for creating random current. They simply rotate based on the flow of water through them. Will get some pic's up on a couple I chucked on my temporary powerheads in the 4 footer soon. Will post some new pic's tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Should have saved the vodka for your tank . Just had an earthquake down here, pretty interesting to see 180gal of water and rock moving back and forth about an inch! Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Freaky- cheap wavemaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 just have to re-iterate, building a reef rack SUCKS. boy its one tedious job... if someone sells custom-made ones, let me know! finished half of one rack. motivation slipping... overflow tank valve went in last night and siliconed up. made half the durso standpipe last night too (until i realised i had a wrong fitting) picked up the new piece today as well as a co2 reg for the calcium reactor. so here's this weeks plan: - tonight sand back plaster, gib seal it, finish durso - wednesday night finish reef racks and install - thursday night build and hookup the hood for the hallides (now theres a tricky one as the hood needs to be either hinged, on rollers or pulleys) - friday day is water collection (taking day off work) then heat up 600 litres of nsw! start connecting up closed loops. finish closed loops. - saturday change plumbing over then move all rocks/fish/corals in. pick up anenome. - sunday either drink lots of beer and celebrate new tank or when the tank cracks and i lose 500 litres of water throughout my house... dont jinx yourself chimera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Definately no jinxing happening here,... Im anal as hell about anything metal that goes within 5 foot of the tank! The plaster around the tanks had it's first sand back. Have taped it up again, plastered around the back of it then pushed the tank hard up against the wall. This will create a nice square finish against the glass (once plaster dries the tank gets pushed back again, tape removed, sanded, gib sealed, painted then tank pushed back into place) I've finished the durso - since its the first one I've made, can anyone see any issues with it? I've put a small air valve in the top of it so its adjustable. Was a bit of a tight fit! Hard to see pic's unfortunately but you get the idea. Also, anyone know a good place in Auckland to get perspex laser cut? Does anyone know if anyone specialises (or has done before) perspex for the overflow box? Any help appreciated. Now onto finishing the reef racks... :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 looks good although that air valve will salt up mine always does then it gets noisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 so height etc is ok? re: the valve - i might replace with another on a long tube further away from the tank. cant be arsed at the moment though! re: laser cutting, found these guys on the web: http://www.northshorelaser.co.nz/ will go see them tomorrow any ideas on the design of the overflow comb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 looks good the water level can be set with the valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Where'd you get the valve and what kind is it? Might give that a try for mine, it's a noisy bastard. Hey, might as well ask now, should the pipe from the bottom of the overflow go into the water a few inches in the sump or be a little above the surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Durso standpipe http://www.dursostandpipes.com/ Got the valve off an Eheim filter. I've seen both pipes sitting above the water level and below. My current sits above the water level. My new will be below the water level although will eventually work something like this: reference: http://www.dfwmas.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=c2b644b766035c23a5fed813f4b1e955;act=ST;f=1;t=4808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Hmmm, Ok, I might just try drilling a little hole in the endcap, as it is I've got it sitting on the top but at an angle to let air in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 make sure you start the hole small and work up. see the durso site above and read it first! on an angle defeats the purpose. the water should sit half way along the u-bend and breath from the top pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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