henward Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 how would one come about heating 15,000 litres of water. outdoors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 if it was me, i would make a mild steel pipe & a pump to circulate the water through it. heat the pipe (gas burner maybe) & let the water circulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ok, but i mean like an aquarium keep it at a constant heat level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 you can get those massive brass looking electric coils for heaters. i saw one on one of those monster fish keepers setups (the guy who built the new house with huge aquarium under it then his wife left him & he had to sell or something like that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Move to florida. BTW we can't get arapima's here so whats the point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 there are fish here that can be put in those tanks and really 3400 for a poratble swimming pool, 15k water volume. is good value! just heating is, i was thinking of a solar heaitng system. running water through some black pipes that hits the sunlight, to heat it, i seen that works in normal pools. just to make it a litle easier to heat. pacus id love to put pacus in there. somehow install a viewing window:D some other large fish that i am tracking down. this is my 3 year plan or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 poratble swimming pool, Thats your option mate, get a swimming pool heater. Hot Water heat Pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 cool, thats probably the bestone but im looking for something that more designed for not humans lol ok maybe there isnt any, cos if its designed fo rhumans, its usually really expensive:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 A couple hot water cylinder elements would probably work too. Wire them up to a good temp controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Some Redtailed Cats and schools of Giant gouramis and clown knifes would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeous Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 or go totaly cold water :lol: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 realistically i just got a quote for 3000 x 1200 x 1000h, 11500 dollars! i mean thats big, but not that! big! in terms of cost of set up, a portable pools, which already comes iwth a spa pool 1horse power filter is only 3400 delivered to my door. only issues are heating, and insulation in winter.. insulation in winter i would assume wouldnt be that much, just pink batts aroundt eh tank and nicely wrap it up:D but heating, i think it would cost a good 2 to 3 thousand to get a heating system still cheaper, lot cheaper to do large scale! somehuge clowns, gouramis, aros, pacus, catfish etc like i said, this is a plan thats spanning next 2 to 3 years when i purchase a home of my own. then looking for big fish wont be too hard, once found then you setup:D to view, you dive in ith a mask and snorkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 then looking for big fish wont be too hard, once found then you setup:D People are always trying to get rid of big pacus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 after a lot of research 2nd best option is solar power best option hot water bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 but heating, i think it would cost a good 2 to 3 thousand to get a heating system I'd be surprised if you couldn't do it for under $1000 without trying hard. Like I was saying before, water cylinder heating elements I'd imagine would be good and I think mine at least is 2kw. You can get a marine tank heat controller for $200ish, 3-4 of those water cylinder elements at $100ish(I think) each that's $600 for 8kw of heating. A bit of plumbing, wiring and relays for a few hundred more. Right around $1000. And, I'm sure there are better/cheaper ways to do it, but this would all be using pieces I think could be easily found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 hey mark: solar seems good and efficient. backed up by electricity no doubt if sun isnt very strong? hot water bore, i am unsure if we get many hot water wells here.. i really dont know how that works lol looking for massive containers for fish, doesnt have to be a pool i guess any ideas mark? i mean massive talking at least 6000 litres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 mmmmmm ira you put forwards a valid point if you put it that wya, it sounds very cheap... and ifit works and reliable, it dont matter... getting good ideas here i just such a big fan of monster fish! huge fish! any ideas on alternatives to a pool? someone suggested a water tank, like those found in rural areas to store rain water. and someone said i could cut out a hole on the side and put on perspex. so it can be viewed easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 The power bill will be huge. What about the pool inside an enclosure (indoor pool)and using heat pumps to heat the air in the enclosure. I think water likes to sit around a couple of degrees below amb. temperure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hmmm, Just doing some calculations. Say you get a good thick reinforced concrete pad poured at about $1000? Concrete blocks for 8 meterX3 meter X 2meter double thickness would need about 1100 at $3.45 each Blocks: $3795 Rebar: $528(3 two meter sections per layer of the wall) So $4323 for outer wall not counting concrete to fill it. Guess another $1000 for that. So $6323 for the pond+need a couple coats of pond paint or I guess you could go fancy and fiberglass it. And I'm sure you'd need a resource consent. That's 48,000 liters right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 i dont particularly like the council working with them is rather difficult portable pool is pretty easy. having a pool is jus tlike building a..... a pool all the crap that goes with it, portable pool isnt needing a consent etc cheaper too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Don't forget the added cost of a viewing window, it would be a shame not to put one in if you're making an above-ground pond. (otherwise just use a swimming pool if you only want to see them from the top) I'm planning on making an above-ground portable pond with the 8'x2' panel of glass I'm getting, once we're settled in our own home (which could be years away!) either from steel or timber. Have a look on the DIY forum at monsterfishkeepers.com there's some pretty massive home-made tanks/ponds there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 viewing window is a must but i figure ill hvae a hands on approach go for a swim to view them:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 It nearly seems like a waste doing it here. I'd love a huge indoor pond with tiger shovelnose and red tailed catfish, arapimas, gars, pacus etc. Auckland zoo or kelly larltons should do a massive amazon display... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 yeah, australia aint much better wiht fish, cos they dont let you import some, it gets hot enough there for the fish to survive during the winter months! well, i guess relocating just for fish is one thing but you can also make the best out of nz havin a school of pacus, gouramis, catfishes, even some nz river and lake fishes. jsut all big fish you cna possibly find i think it could be impressive too! but i know wha tyou mean RTC, shovel nose, arapaima, rays, etc would be wicked! i guess in nz we ust hvae to settle with what we have and a school of silver aros:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 i guess in nz we ust hvae to settle with what we have and a school of silver aros:D Yeah, realistically I'd never be able to afford to build a tank like that, let alone run it and feed all the massive fish! I'm planning on about 8-9'x4'x30" for the pond, partially because thats the size of the free glass, and partially because anything much bigger will be way too expensive! The good thing with having 3 solid sides is that it can be insulated well to save on heating costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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