oneeyedfrog Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi, The kids and I caught eight tadpoles from an old fish pond up the road a while back. We now have 6 wee frogs and 2 tadpoles ( golden bell frogs we think). Anyway 5 out of the eight only have one eye. We are pretty sure the tadpoles were like this when we got them. We will go and check out some of the hundreds still in the pond. Does anyone have any ideas as to what causes this? I wondered about pesticides? or could it be something we have done? Thanks for your help oneeyedfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeous Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 hey, sorry but I've got no idea about frogs, but where abouts in Whangarei do you live... Me and my lil bro could do with frogs 8) (not from you) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 It is my understanding that Amphibians are sentitive to pollution and mutate easily as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 they probably had their eyes bitten out as tadpoles by thier hungry siblings or water insects IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Pesticides do it Seen them mutated in worse ways than loosing an eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 interesting, got any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Frogs are known as an 'Indicator Species' meaning that tadpoles/frogs are one of the first animals to be affected by a polluted environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedfrog Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi, Do they really get their eyes bitten out? That's amazing! I might ask the owners of the property if they have done any spraying lately. We went down and checked out about 20 tadpoles in the fish pond and they all seemed to have two eyes. The kids were more interested in the hedgehog we fished out of the pond. So will have another look at more later I will charge my camera up tonight and try and post some pics tomorrow. Georgeous -We are an hour out of Whangarei at Whangaruru. Thanks for your replies oneeyedfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 not really carniverous by any stretch of the imagination?have seen them sucking on dead ones but don`t think for one second they even have the mouth parts to remove an eye let alone for 5 out of 8 to survive such an injury??some people say the strangest things and whats even stranger is they believe it???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeous Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Georgeous -We are an hour out of Whangarei at Whangaruru. oneeyedfrog No way... were going camping there!! leaving today... coolll :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 not really carniverous by any stretch of the imagination?have seen them sucking on dead ones but don`t think for one second they even have the mouth parts to remove an eye let alone for 5 out of 8 to survive such an injury??some people say the strangest things and whats even stranger is they believe it???? what a condescending post! I am offended repto. My opinion was based on my experience of breeding frogs in the past and raising thousands off tadpoles to sell for a premium over the winter. I have seen many examples of cannibalistic tadpoles that would rather bite pieces out of their live brothers and sisters than eat peas and algae. Yes 5 out of eight is unusual but if one tadpole happened to be a cannibal and it was in a confined space with 7 others then it is by no means impossible. also, the mother frog that produced all those tadpoles only had one eye. Now she has none because she lost the other from an infection last year. I tend to base my opinions from what I have experianced first hand. Before you go rubbishing peoples posts repto, I suggest you find out where they are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 you have to be a bit diplomatic,can`t tell people they are talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Owen was not sating that anyone was talking rubbish. He was saying he found the post condescending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I have seen David addinborough showing cannibalistic tadpoles, it is survival of the fittest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 David Attenborough`s tadpoles are a completly different species from a completly different continent.(have seen that too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Well I got some tadpoles today from a local Wellington spot, - also Golden Bell frogs (which are from Australia) and some of them have only one eye too! It actually looks like a mutation, as the skin seems to be complete over the eye area, rather than injury. I do know from experience that all GB tadpoles will eat each other wholly or partially if they get the chance - just like fish, if it fits in the mouth, it could be food! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 all I can say is have a look at the mouth and mouth parts of a tadpole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedfrog Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Well there were thousands of tadpoles in the pond when we collected these so they could have been hungry. Now there are only hundreds. Last week we went down to see if we could see any young frogs and there was a newly dead hedgehog floating in the pond. The tadpoles were having a really good munch on that and there is hardly any thing left of it now. so they must be able to get the flesh off somehow I will try and get a pic of a tadpole with one eye. They do have a mark there and it is kinda hard to notice but once they morph they have nothing there at all. This is our first attempt to keep tadpoles. We fed them once a day on frozen lettuce. Perhaps that wasnt' enough. With so many of them being deformed we guessed we had done something wrong. Cheers oneeyedfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedfrog Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 well I finally got some pics The lastest frog to morph actually has no eyes at all. Sad How do I attach the pics? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 tadpoles tend to suck more than chew even big taddies have small mouths as to deformities with the amount of eggs in a spawn just like goldfish they aren't all going to be perfect, all those different combinations of chromosones will throw a few oddities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Actually the omnivorous tadpole species ( eg golden bells, and greens) have lots of very tiny teeth in their lips, made of keratin. Weird, but true. Some other species also have a beak. The amazing thing is how they have to metamorph their whole mouth into a much bigger frog mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 How do I attach the pics? http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/postin ... t4307.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedfrog Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks MarkLB I think I have managed to sort out the pics. We have very slow dial up. Heres a pic of a one eyed frog - there are no scars just smooth skin and a dent where the eye should be Heres some of the no eyed frog Heres a couple of the two remaining tadpoles - very hard to see they both only have one "bump" If anyone would like a frog or two- email me. cheers oneeyedfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 this is my 1 eyed frog houdini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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